Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mars Return Sample Mission


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result of the debate was no consensus. Mailer Diablo 14:45, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

Mars Return Sample Mission
I am unsure of this article's accuracy for the following reasons: it is entitled 'Return Sample' instead of the regularly used 'Sample Return', I cannot find any information on a joint ESA/NASA sample return mission and it was created by a suspected vandal known as John oh. --Marsbound2024 04:34, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete - the very first google hit from NASA's own website demonstrates that the mission is planned. But the fact that it's 8 years in the future, unfunded, and technically more difficult than anything so far achieved means that it's speculation upon speculation. NASA does have a right to think this far ahead, but it's a fairly obvious step in the progress of space exploration that anyone could have come up with. I agree that 'sample return' makes more sense. - Richardcavell 05:11, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Weak delete per Richardcavell. SushiGeek 05:15, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment how about moving it to Sample Return, or merging with NASA (or Mars or something), seeing as it's verified. Tyrenius 05:36, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep The article is accurate and the long range plans of NASA/ESA though subject to change are obviously notable. -MrFizyx 05:49, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
 * It should be expanded, here are a few articles -MrFizyx 05:54, 12 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Comment Well there has not been anything definitive about an ESA/NASA joint mission, just individual missions by either. Thus I recommended it for deletion since it is--as Richardcavell said--"speculation upon speculation."  Until NASA or ESA actually announce a joint sample return mission, I don't think we should have an article that definitely states it is one and it is in the works; furthermore, its launch schedule spans two decades...  this simply doesn't merit an article in my opinion since there is nothing to work with EXCEPT speculation.  Thanks for all of your thoughts.  --Marsbound2024 06:03, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete crystalballism. Vizjim 10:23, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep per MrFizyx. --badlydrawnjeff (WP:MEMES?) 11:27, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep I think an encyclopedic article can exist for this topic without being speculative. There are substantial references (see above comment from MrFizyx) indicating that preliminary work is underway. ScottW 14:16, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Rename &mdash; Press coverage and NASA news always lists it as "Mars Sample Return Mission". Right now it sounds like we want return a sample back to Mars. ;-) Delete &mdash; topic already well-covered by sample return mission page. &mdash; RJH 20:05, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep or Archive - We'll eventually have to create a new article to describe such a mission, but right now I agree that Sample return mission covers the topic. However, I see no reason to delete it.  Anyone involved in the planning of the topic would probably be willing to help build it, we just have to have it available for them to build.  Chadlupkes 20:19, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep or archive per Chadlupkes. Beno1000 20:43, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Merge and Redirect to NASA, as it is planned and is likely to happen, but WP:NOT a crystal ball and there's just not enough info right now. M1ss1ontomars2k4 23:31, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep: info is correct and relevant. Nick Mks 18:14, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete because this type of mission sounds so ridicious, and a suspected vandal user like John oh can provide false information. mr.parks 17:12, 13 May 2006 (PTC)
 * Strong Keep - this category of missions has had numerous detailed mission designs proposed and remains a major component of the human moon/mars missions program. The article needs to actually list out the current status, and prior proposals, in a lot more detail... but what's there now is just stubby, not wrong.  Notable, encyclopedic, keep.  Georgewilliamherbert 21:46, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete or Merge to - The Information here may be somewhat similar to other information to the informationg given on other websites proposing a sample return mission but this information is very weak. Otherwise, if to keep the information. I want it to be merged with Exploration of Mars on the future missions section and to clean-up and make the information more acurrate. But this wil cause the article, Mars Return Sample Mission to be deleted. Plus, this information can be a hoax form John oh. mr.parks 16:39, 13 May 2006 (PTC)
 * Vote early, vote often, but only one counts. NThis is a duplicate vote by user:mr.parks.  Georgewilliamherbert 23:45, 15 May 2006 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.