Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Marshall Hain

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Marshall Hain
A short-lived British pop duo. In 1978 they released a single which got to number 3, and then they released a single which got to number 39, and then they released an album which did not chart. As with Susan Fassbender, Kissing the Pink or Finitribe they influenced nobody, were not innovative, changed nothing, and their most popular single came and went in a flash. Personnel consisted of Julian Marshall, who went on to play session piano for David Cunningham's The Flying Lizards, and Kit Hain, who did not. Hain has written a short history of the band here which actually reinforces my satanic desire to wipe her life's work from Wikipedia. Three and a half thousand hits on Google but these seem to consist almost entirely of (a) automated lyrics and discography sites and (b) inventories of 'rare records' websites. Of the first hundred of Google's search results, apart from the aforementioned link not a single page is actually about the band; there are a few which mention one or other band-member as being 'once part of Marshall Hain', but nothing about Marshall Hain itself. The reason for this is that there is nothing to know. Apart from the nitty-gritty of song titles and track times I have encapsulated the entirety of their being in the first sentence of this writeup. The information might belong in individal pages for either Marshall or Hain, but they haven't done much of note either; and the article for The Flying Lizards is sadly a mess. -Ashley Pomeroy 17:00, 3 Mar 2005 (UTC)


 * Keep. Fascinating topic, good stub. Two top 100 singles is fine, IMO any duo that charts a single at number three scrapes in as being encyclopedic for us although perhaps not for a paper encyclopedia, but a follow-up at number 39 clinches it. Short-lived? Two years doen't set any records for longevity sure, but it's still a long time in the music industry. Andrewa 17:23, 3 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. "Has had a Top 100 hit on any national music chart, in a large or medium-sized country", so passes the Notability and Music Guidelines. Kappa 18:11, 3 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. Seems at least as notable as many one hit wonders, and we have plenty of articles on them. -R. fiend 18:34, 3 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. They have an allmusic.com entry which notes a single at 43 on the pop singles charts. Gamaliel 18:39, 3 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep I used to work in a vocal sample from Hain's cover version of Captain Sensible's "The Toys Take Over" during my sets. Andrew Lenahan - St ar bli nd 20:33, Mar 3, 2005 (UTC)
 * Kit Hain's cover version of Captain Sensible's "The Toys Take Over"; Marshall Hain don't appear to have recorded this song. -Ashley Pomeroy 00:14, 4 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * That is true, even the Captain's version of "The Toys Take Over" was post 1980. But since both members went on to solo careers, this is a further argument for notability even beyond the duo's own merits.  By the way, did you ever notice how thematically similar "The Toys Take Over" is to "Toys" by XTC? Andrew Lenahan - St ar bli nd  01:13, Mar 4, 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep, per Notability and Music Guidelines. ElBenevolente 00:55, 4 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. Their song Dancing in the City was a big hit in Australia in 1978. Together with the other chart info, this is enough to confirm that they meet the WikiMusic Project guidelines. Capitalistroadster 01:28, 4 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * Obvious keep and ridiculous nomination. UK number 3, and you want to delete? Eegh. - David Gerard 01:46, 5 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * Extreme keep, agree with David Gerard completely. VfD is the cancer of Wikipedia.  &mdash;RaD Man (talk) 07:28, 8 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * Worst. Analogy. Ever. Gamaliel 15:48, 8 Mar 2005 (UTC)

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