Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Marshall Street


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The result was   Keep.  Jerry  delusional ¤ kangaroo 01:29, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Marshall Street

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Typical street, with no particular notability. rootology ( C )( T ) 14:56, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep – This particular street is the address of the University of Syracuse, which in and by itself delineates a certain degree of notability to the street itself. Likewise, the city of Syracuse approved and spent the largest amount of money on a public works project in the city's history on upgrading this street in  2005.  Thus establishing notability.  Thanks. ShoesssS Talk 18:06, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Hi... notability is based on sourcing, the same as any other subject. There's only one source presently talking about the street's name, but not itself. Are there multiple non-trivial sources discussing the street? I'd happily withdraw if they were found and added. rootology ( C )( T ) 18:09, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment – Not a problem, here is a partial list, under a very specific search criteria which shows articles from the The Post Standard to the New York Times.  Over the weekend, I’ll add some of the more respected publications as in-line cites and references and also expand slightly, as with regards to the public works project.  That will more than satisfy the notabilty guidelines,  As a side note, typically you are right, most streets are not notable in and of themselves.  However, if you note in reading the article, and it names a University or Landmark or Historical Site  on that road, 999 out of 999 times, that road is going to be notable. Take care. ShoesssS Talk 19:55, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
 * A Google search result page is not a source citation. Indeed, there's no guarantee that everyone else even sees the same search results that you did.  Cite actual sources, don't just point to search results that happen to include a phrase.  What you did isn't research, and is of zero value to AFD.  (The first result that comes up for me is an obituary of a Spanish poet, and not a source discussing this subject, for example.) Actual source citations, of published works that document this subject (rather than that just happen to contain two words) are of value.  You have not actually demonstrated notability at all.  Uncle G (talk) 05:28, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
 * I agree with you. But if you notice I didn’t just show the Google News search results.  I actually went back to the article and referenced the piece.  Regarding the notability I used the largest public works project in the city’s history.  Which I also cited. I typically try and do that with any of my Keep votes.  Do I do it for everyone no, but a majority.  Hope this helps. ShoesssS Talk 09:57, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Neutral. I do agree that roads containing landmarks or historic sites tend to be notable, but most references in the list you mentioned were trivial references where the street was named in an unrelated context. It needs sources to back up the material in it. - Mgm|(talk) 23:58, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of New York-related deletion discussions.   -- • Gene93k (talk) 16:39, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak keep -- This appears to be an article on a neighbourhood, in the firm of one concerning a street. If retained the directory of businesses on it should be removed.  This sort of information is better on a city website, which a public authority will maintain.  WP is not a directory.  Peterkingiron (talk) 17:18, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep The principal street a major university is on will generally be notable, as enough things will have happened there to get in the papers, and they become well know generally, even outside the college. I'd extend this only to major universities and colleges, particularly historic ones. Some of the largest universities may have more than one, but in that case there will almost certainly be sources for notability (Im thinking here of Harvard and UC Berkeley). DGG (talk) 14:04, 23 December 2008 (UTC)


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