Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Marta Martin


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The result was   keep.  MBisanz  talk 02:44, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Marta Martin

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Bio of an American actress. Fails notability requirements, lack of third party coverage. Strongly suspect that either she or her husband also created her husband's article Shawn Amos, so also confict of interest in this potentially promotional case applies. ~ Eliz 81 (C)  19:00, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and actresses-related deletion discussions.   --  Fabrictramp  |  talk to me  20:43, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Living people-related deletion discussions. --Erwin85Bot (talk) 00:02, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete Insufficient notability per guidelines. ChildofMidnight (talk) 08:06, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep. Credits appear verifiable. Period of most work suggests article can (and should) be substantially improved by using print sources. Hullaballoo Wolfowitz (talk) 16:57, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
 * No one is saying they're not verifiable, but we don't articles on every single actor in existence. Was any of those roles significant. All I can identify is roles for extras. - Mgm|(talk) 20:51, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
 * There's a gigantic different between "guest actors" and "extras". Extras, by union definition, are not "featured" or have speaking lines on screen, while "guest stars" (what this person is credited for) do.  That's why the latter are always credited and extras are rarely so.  Speaking as a life-long television/film industry worker. --Oakshade (talk) 06:46, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
 * The problem is that there's also a major difference between being on the standard cast and guest starring. Does she have one speaking line? 5? 10? Or were the roles something even more substantial? You can't tell from the article. - Mgm|(talk) 23:58, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
 * It appears from her imdb listing that most of the guest roles were substantial, given that most of her characters had names, sometimes full names, and not mostly titles like "Girl #2." In several shows, her character has appeared in more than one episode, further indicating significant characters.  It most cases, characters that are assigned names are significant characters.--Oakshade (talk) 00:06, 15 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:01, 14 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep - Has had significant roles in multiple notable TV shows and films, thus passing WP:BIO. --Oakshade (talk) 05:21, 14 January 2009 (UTC) Per request to be more specific, WP:ENTERTAINER states "Has had significant roles in multiple notable films, television, stage performances, or other productions" which this person has had including Brothers & Sisters, CSI:Miami, CSI:New York and NYPD Blue. --Oakshade (talk) 06:29, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep and send to WP:CLEANUP for sourcing and expansion per cursory search.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 23:06, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Google web searches do not establish notability. This Google news search indicates a potential swath of reliable, third party sources devoted to coverage of Ms. Martin, of which there are none. She fails WP:BIO requirements for notability. ~ Eliz 81 (C)  19:14, 17 January 2009 (UTC)


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