Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Martha Speaks merchandise


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete.  kur  ykh   04:24, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Martha Speaks merchandise

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If "there isn't any merchandise yet" then there should not be an article about merchandise. WP:NOT, WP:CRYSTAL, etc. Something that does not exist is not notable. Originally PRODed by Gladys j cortez (talk ·''' contribs). Delete. Tohd8BohaithuGh1 (talk) 00:23, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete WP:CRYSTAL. Why was this even written? Ten Pound Hammer  and his otters • (Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP) 00:24, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
 * The creator of the article (and many, many more) claims to be an elementary-school girl who loves the show. She's also making templates for other PBS cartoons, their characters, the voice actors that play those characters, and a bunch of other stuff that is totally going to get deleted. I don't wanna bite the poor kid's head off, nor deter her from contributing, but this is the cruftiest cruft that ever crufted and it's gotta go. Gladys J Cortez 00:29, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Offtopic trying to expand Emily Elizabeth Howard to at least a readable article, maybe to a A class but it's hard to find good reliable sources, especially that she does not appear in newspapers, magazines and other sources. Tohd8BohaithuGh1 (talk) 00:56, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete Not only crystal, but complete PBScruft (I don't see a Sesame Street merchandise article here, for instance). Why, oh, why do some editors write articles about every little detail about a kids channel and their programming?  Nate  • ( chatter ) 01:33, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Additional comment Is there any way this contributor might be related to Jamesinc also? These cases remind me of his edits in a few ways.  Nate  • ( chatter ) 01:35, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete At first glance, is blatant WP:CRYSTAL. Can always re-create if anything is released, but right now, article doesn't serve any use in my view.  Fraud  talk to me  02:18, 23 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete for being the cruftiest crystal cruft.   Esradekan Gibb    "Talk" 04:16, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete as rumour. If/when the product is released, it may gain a notability.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 07:13, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
 * The particular irony of this AfD is that the alleged "merchandise" came from a spoof advertisement played during a "Martha Speaks" episode. There is not, has not been, will not ever be, any album called "Martha's Songs of Toil". This is analogous to writing articles about the products depicted on those "Wacky Packages" stickers from years ago--like creating an article for "Hellogg's Frosted Snakes". So it's not only cruft, it's SPURIOUS cruft.Gladys J Cortez 09:07, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. This is something that can be (and is) mentioned on the Martha Speaks article and really doesn't warrant its own article.  Pinkadelica Say it...  09:44, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

Merge: I suggest that we merge this article to Martha Speaks and make it a section on the article. Because it will be released on iTunes and DVD. But the songs of toil DVD is fake. It was a spoof ad. Elbutler (talk) 11:42, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment Do we really need to? As I said above, there is no Sesame Street merchandise article (besides that vibrating red monster doll that will not die), nor do any other PBS, Nick, or Cartoon Network shows. Let's nip this in the bud before anyone gets the idea that it's acceptable to create seperate lists of merchandise for every show. We're not here to be a free ad space for Playskool, Mattel or anyone else with a kids show trinket.  Nate  • ( chatter ) 00:14, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete: No merchandise yet. Schuy m 1  ( talk ) 00:22, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete since the article comes right out and says there is no merchandise. Andrew Lenahan -  St ar bli nd  15:31, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete news release per WP:NOT. B.Wind (talk) 03:17, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions.   -- Raven1977 (talk) 16:08, 26 October 2008 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.