Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Martial Arts International Federation


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Consensus is that the article fails the notability guidelines as it does not have the coverage in reliable secondary sources to establish notability. Davewild (talk) 18:46, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

Martial Arts International Federation

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I can find no independent sources for this organization and nothing to show it's notable. The article's only source is its own web page. Papaursa (talk) 14:58, 4 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Martial arts-related deletion discussions. Papaursa (talk) 14:58, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions. &#9733;&#9734;  DUCK IS PEANUTBUTTER &#9734;&#9733; 15:12, 4 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete. Can't find any independent sources either. Seems like a purely promotional article. DoctorKubla (talk) 16:32, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete as previous nominator for speedy deletion under criterion G11. Wer900 • talk • coordinationconsensus defined 17:19, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete I agree with the arguments above.Kendo 66 00:08, 5 July 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kendo 66 (talk • contribs)
 * Delete per lack of WP:RS --Artene50 (talk) 18:14, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
 * KEEP valid organisation. Was a member at one time. Will try to get info for article. PLEASE give me link. Thechristiancontender (talk) 05:35, 6 July 2012 (UTC)
 * KEEP valid organizations on Wiki. Martial Arts International Federation] (MAIF) is a valid organization. The official website is Martial Arts International Federation (MAIF) - Kontoreg (talk) 12:32, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I have already voted above to delete the MAIF wikipedia article. Kontoreg may like to know that the main page on the MAIF website that he refers to above, was last updated on 9 July 2009 and the what's new page was last updated on 16 June 2009. So really using the website as proof of existence could be challenged.Kendo 66 03:38, 10 July 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kendo 66 (talk • contribs)

A page does not have to change if the organisations infomation is current and accurate infomation. No rule says pages need to be constantly updated if the info is accurate and nothing needs adding. This organisation is a valid organisation and is known by martial arts instructors. Thechristiancontender (talk) 04:15, 10 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete That's true - and an organization can no longer exist and still be notable. Problem is that I don't think this organization is Notable and the article makes not attempt to address this issue.  The only source of information is its own web site - no third party sources.Peter Rehse (talk) 04:30, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

the organisation still exists and is notable. A good example of notable but without current mention on wikipededia is the late grandmaster Glenn Ellis Kwan. Martial Artist from all over the world were at his funeral. So to say that you have to have a large number of sources to be an active credible organisation is simply false. Thechristiancontender (talk) 06:33, 10 July 2012 (UTC)


 * All that means is that perhaps an article should be written about Glenn Ellis Kwan. No one said a large number of sources just something beyond their own website.  One or two primary sources would be more than enough.  That would also be true for Glenn Kwan.  Wikipedia has pretty clear guidelines.  Please see WP:NOTE.Peter Rehse (talk) 06:50, 10 July 2012 (UTC)


 * I would also like to add that there is no information on when, how and by who it was founded. If it is kept some attempt to make a better, more informative, article should be made.Peter Rehse (talk) 06:59, 10 July 2012 (UTC)


 * delete Article has no indpendent sources and nothing to show this is a notable organization. My search found nothing independent that supports notability. 131.118.229.18 (talk) 15:37, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
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