Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Martifer


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. The nominator is now blocked, and no editor in good standing supports deletion.  Sandstein  21:26, 26 December 2018 (UTC)

Martifer
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The added sources returns 404 error and other sources are coming from BlogSpot (self created webpage) or from their official website. No sources that meet WP:NOTABILITY. The page should be deleted as per WP:G11, WP:CORP and maybe WP:G3. Farooqahmadbhat (talk) 16:04, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Companies-related deletion discussions. Bakazaka (talk) 20:38, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Portugal-related deletion discussions. Bakazaka (talk) 20:38, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep Portuguese publicly-traded company with operations all over Europe. Sufficient sources almost always exist for such companies per WP:LISTED; has nominator looked for sources in Portuguese? (quick DDG search found me this bylined source, many others). UnitedStatesian (talk) 21:01, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Does not meet Notability (organizations and companies). Of course, there are obviously some sources just based on company press release (see WP:PRSOURCE. There is nothing that could be called independent. Farooqahmadbhat (talk) 18:22, 20 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep as it meets WP:GNG. This company is regularly featured in high-key Portuguese economic-oriented newspapers who follow companies in the stock exchange market, such as Jornal de Negócios (belongs to Cofina, one of the largest Portuguese media groups) or Jornal Económico (belongs to SAPO, another big media group)  - please refer to the search function in the linked websites for more instances of coverage. It was also featured in general-newspapers when covering investigations to some deals with the Navy, regularization of workers' situation following the acquisition of the government's shipyard in Viana, fines for insider trading or litigations with other companies. The onus is on the nominator to explain why the dozens of news articles that show up on Google search all qualify as press releases; the linked articles are all signed by different journalists and published by several major Portuguese newspapers. Público quotes an array of sources (from the European Comission to several politicians) in their first article, and the Mayor of Viana and a Spanish politician in their second, Diário de Notícias' story came from CMVM, not Martifer, Expresso clearly says Martifer did not give them any soundbites about the litigation. Absence of sources in the article should be followed by WP:BEFORE, not AfD. RetiredDuke (talk) 00:06, 26 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Another article that is obviously not a press release in another major newspaper: Political party denounces sackings by Martifer in Jornal de Notícias .  RetiredDuke (talk) 00:41, 26 December 2018 (UTC)


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