Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Martin Abucha


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. WP:TNT applies. ✗ plicit  14:50, 10 October 2022 (UTC)

Martin Abucha

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Fails GNG and NPOL. Ministerial position is an appointment and no election was involved.  Comr Melody Idoghor  (talk)  15:02, 3 October 2022 (UTC) *Keep the subject is notable and the statements in the article are clearly verifiable. Deletion is not cleanup. I will tidy it up now but there’s no need at all for deletion. Mccapra (talk) 18:56, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People and Politicians.  Comr Melody Idoghor   (talk)  15:02, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
 * TNT: A cabinet minister is an WP:NPOL-conferring position, so he is notable. However, the article is better off being WP:TNTed and started again, as it is of practically irreparably poor quality. Curbon7 (talk) 18:24, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
 * I can handle writing up the new version, as I have experience writing about South Sudanese government ministers. Curbon7 (talk) 01:50, 7 October 2022 (UTC)
 * That would be wonderful. I created a barebones stub at Talk:Martin Abucha/Temp which is meant to be used in place of the copyvio.  It could stand a good dose of expansion and improvement. Whpq (talk) 02:02, 7 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Africa-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 18:46, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
 *  Keep  - Mining minister is a position in the national government's cabinet. WP:NPOL is clearly met.  There is no requirement for the position to be elected, and I would be surprised if any cabinet level position in any government in the world was an elected one.  I disagree with the sentiment expressed above that TNT applies.  It is not a well-written article but it is not in such an irredeemable shape that requires deletion to resolve. -- Whpq (talk) 19:08, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete - After further investigation, there is significant copyright violations from the initial version. A fresh article from scratch without foundational copyright issues would be better. -- Whpq (talk) 19:23, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
 * sounds better Okello Justine (talk) 08:01, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:TNT. There isn't really anything worth salvaging here since it's all copyvios. Subject might be notable though. Waddles 🗩 🖉 19:49, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment I’ve struck my !vote in the light of potential copyright issues. A clean start may be best after all. Mccapra (talk) 19:53, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
 * isn't there a way i can rework on that martin abacha article again? i wanted to correct the mistakes but i cant even tap on the article Okello Justine (talk) 07:59, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Answered on editor's talk page. Whpq (talk) 13:25, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete for Now: She is notable as she is a minister in Cabinet of South Sudan but there are copyright violations in the article so it have to be deleted. Contributor008 (talk) 17:34, 5 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete as WP:TNT, without prejudice against recreation if somebody can write and source a new version properly. Even politicians who pass WP:NPOL aren't exempt from still having to follow all of Wikipedia's other content policies, such as our copyright rules. Bearcat (talk) 21:52, 6 October 2022 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.