Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Martin Archer


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. T. Canens (talk) 23:38, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

Martin Archer

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Article does not meet WP:GNG or WP:MUSICBIO. My WP:BEFORE turned up nothing, but I will happily change my vote to keep if anyone can find WP:RS to establish WP:N.  // Timothy ::  talk  15:20, 23 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.   // Timothy ::  talk  15:20, 23 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom --Devokewater @  15:31, 23 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per nomination. There is physicist with the same name who throws out a few Google hits, but this musician fails WP:NMUSICIAN and WP:NOTINHERITED. The page creator has been perma-banned for sockpuppetry after creating and editing the (probably autobiographical) page Kris T Reeder, another jazz musician: I'm suspicious that this page may have a similar CoI. ~dom Kaos~ (talk) 17:09, 23 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of United Kingdom-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 18:32, 23 July 2020 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep: This was and remains a stub article, but it already had references to a bylined Allmusic biographical article and an album review by John Fordham in The Guardian. Since then, I have added more bylined reviews, from The Sunday Times and AllAboutJazz. I don't have access, but The Wire archives indicate that Archer's "Story Tellers" was one of their contributors' Jazz CD of the year; the same CD also has a positive review here. The subject operates in a rarified area of music, but I would say that the sum of the bylined reviews of his work is sufficient for WP:MUSICBIO criterion 1. AllyD (talk) 21:48, 23 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep - I agree with AllyD above. This musician is a rather obscure behind-the-scenes guy but the sources found by AllyD, especially the knowledgeable AllMusic biography, give us enough for a basic stub article. I will also point out that some of his albums get robust reviews in the legit jazz press; see e.g., . ---  DOOMSDAYER 520 (Talk&#124;Contribs) 00:08, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep as has significant coverage in multiple reliable sources identified in this discussion and added to the article such as The Guardian, AllMusic, The Times and jazz reliable sources so that it is clear that he passes WP:BASIC and that deletion is no longer necessary in my view, Atlantic306 (talk) 23:32, 27 July 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Natg 19 (talk) 01:16, 31 July 2020 (UTC) Vmavanti (talk) 13:59, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep. Enough coverage cited in the article, and I found a few more sources from a Google search. --Michig (talk) 11:10, 31 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment. Four poorly written sentences with lapses in grammar and style suggest a creative use of the word "article". I can't vote on an article if it's not an article. But AfDs aren't supposed to be a tally of votes. If 9 out of 10 people say "Keep" an admin can still delete it. But none of them have the courage to do it in that situation. Did you know a non-admin can close an AfD? I saw it done recently. Any of you can close this if you want.


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.