Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Martin Demierre


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. This is borderline in terms of consensus, but after nearly two and a half weeks, it has not yielded any further discussion. Therefore it is time to close this. The sources provided do not, by themselves, give the subject the indepedent, reliable coverage necessary for meeting the notability guideine for living people. There is only one citation that is not the webpage of a company he has been involved with, which is simply not enough. Generally, this would be "no consensus", but as this is a BLP, and there has been no improvement in the extended duration of this AfD, I have deleted the page. Peter Symonds ( talk ) 15:38, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

Martin Demierre

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Non-notable person. Only claims to notability are founding a non-notable company, and reception of some very local recognitions. Cannot find any reliable citations. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 12:14, 19 March 2010 (UTC) You can check press articles in the web page of the company Press 2006 and also an Audible file, Press 2007 and Press 2008-9 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.62.142.193 (talk) 22:07, 21 March 2010 (UTC)  Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:12, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 00:51, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.


 * Note: This article has been nominated for rescue. Silver  seren C 18:56, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:03, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment I have tagged this article for rescue. Silver  seren C 18:56, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep I have formatted the article, along with putting in some EL's. He seems to have a significant amount of coverage among French news sources and I believe he satisfies notability. Silver  seren C 18:56, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep per Silver. Str8cash (talk) 05:46, 28 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.


 * Relisting comment. I would normally close this as "keep" but since it's a BLP it would be helpful to have another comment or 2 so lets give it a few more days. --Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:05, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Burn it with fire - After discussion of the subject with a French Wikipedian, it transpires there is strong suspicion this and it's subsequent brother at fr.wp are self promotional, and that it's admissibility as a notable subject is highly questionable. As a result of this, and reviewing both this and the article at fr.wikipedia, I say delete as possible self promo, and non notable subject.  Barking Fish  Talk to me | My contributions 00:24, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
 * If it is self-promotional, then it should be rewritten so it isn't. That is not a reason for deletion. The sources show that the subject is notable, because there is significant coverage in them. Silver  seren C 00:34, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
 * At the present time, the French Wikipedia has their equivalent of a Speedy Deletion in progress, a DSI, or Demande d'Suppression Immediate on the grounds of non notability and self promotional material -currently 3 votes to 0 in favor of immediate deletion. - now if he's not notable in his own damn country, what makes him notable here? The articles creator both here and at fr.wp is linked to his company, hell it may even be him.  This is a major COI and in theory, it should have been accepted for an A7 rather than be put through a fortnight's worth of very slow AFD.  Barking Fish  Talk to me | My contributions 01:54, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
 * The French Wikipedia version does not have the sources that I included in ours. I have contested your speedy delete tag, as the article just needs to be rewritten, it should not be speedy deleted. Are you saying that the sources I have included in the article are not reliable? If you do not believe they are, then you need to explain directly your reasoning for each one. Silver  seren C 03:52, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Please see my comments at the article talk page for why I believe it should be deleted. Ooh Bunnies! Not just any bunnies... 04:23, 2 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Comment I have allowed Silver seren some time to attempt to rescue this article, but I don't believe the sources he has found denote any special notability for this person. The press coverage that exists all appears to be of the self-promotional public relations type, the type of articles that companies pay to place in magazines to bolster their images.  The awards won by Demierre or Touchmind are the sort of local prizes that chambers of commerce hand out all the time; they are not national-level or industry-level prizes.  I have removed the speedy delete however, as I believe Barkingfish's arguments for speedy deletion are incorrect.  Whatever the course of decision at the French Wikipedia, this English article should be discussed on its own merits.  A credible claim of notability is made, so speedy deletion is not an option.  However, those claims of notability do not seem to ring true under investigation, so the article really should be deleted.  WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 12:55, 2 April 2010 (UTC)


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