Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Martin Fierz


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The result was delete.  Sandstein (talk) 06:59, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Martin Fierz

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Subject does not appear to be sufficiently notable to meet inclusion criteria. Apparantly is a chess player but according to fide rankings is #51 in Switzerland so a decent player but not exceptional. A google search suggests that the subject has written a popular checkers (thats Draughts for us Brits) but I couldn't see anything in the first 50 or so hits that hints at event the slightest bit being suitable for writing a biographical article. The article itself lacks reliable sources and cannot therefore meet our verification policy before we even think aboout notability. Spartaz Humbug! 21:44, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Neutral for now. SunCreator (talk) 00:12, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment, verification is not an issue, Physicist p.57, Chess player, FIDE Master of chess, checkers programmer. SunCreator (talk) 00:56, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I disagree, the article is full of of unverified information and I don't see that there is sufficient information out there to verify any detailed biograohical information on this man. With regard to your sources, coauthoring a paper on physics does not a bio make, the second mentions his placing in a chess tournament and the third is about the programe he wrote and mentions his name once. If afraid that none of these sources adequately addresses this person as their main subject and cannot be reliable sources or used to verify much if anything about him. Spartaz Humbug! 05:32, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Verification and Notability have nothing to do with the article. It's all about the topic, if the topic is notable then the article can be empty; it's a subtle but important distinction that should not be overlooked because with wikipedia there is no rush and today the topic can be empty but in a year or so it could be a featured article, so the Afd is about the topic, nothing else. Hopefully and in most cases the articles contents shows notability. Not in this case however. Each of the four links above (,, , show verifiability, as they are independent of the source, but none of them however show WP:Notability. They show he is a Physicist, he is a Fide rated Chess player and that he is a Programmer. SunCreator (talk) 21:52, 29 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete - Per nom. --70.109.223.188 (talk) 13:36, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete unless citations from reliable sources are added to comply with the verifiability policy. Stifle (talk) 18:28, 29 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete I do not know about his other achievements (the aerosol thing and so on), but from a purely "chess" point of view he is definitely not notable. SyG (talk) 19:45, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete The chess is not notable and don't have an information to indicate any of his other things are notable either. SunCreator (talk) 22:01, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete just not a notable figure by our standards. --Fred Chilton (talk) 17:15, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Switzerland-related deletion discussions.   -- Fabrictramp (talk) 19:51, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Living people-related deletion discussions.   -- Fabrictramp (talk) 19:51, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Delete Looks more like a dilettante than a serious chess player or computer programmer. PatGallacher (talk) 20:42, 30 April 2008 (UTC)


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