Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Martin Kobylanski


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The result was   delete. There is no policy that playing for junior international sides confers notability Spartaz Humbug! 06:13, 23 July 2011 (UTC)

Martin Kobylanski

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Non-notable footballer. Fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. Argyle 4 Life talk  05:21, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
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 * Delete - fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. GiantSnowman 11:11, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep - he might fail the formal requirement of WP:NFOOTBALL which due to his age is a given. But in view of his age and record (playing in 2 national teams) and national media attention I think he is passing WP:GNG. More articles focusing on the lad will be around Agathoclea (talk) 19:06, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
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 * Delete. Clearly fails WP:NFOOTBALL, so the question rests on WP:BIO. Playing for national teams of two countries at very junior level, isn't actually that unusual these days. The club I follow has had two that I can think of in the last couple of years, both of whose WP articles were deleted pending their passing WP:ATHLETE, Semih Aydilek at AfD and Alpa Ozturk by prod, and at least three more who played for one nation at junior level and another at senior. This article contains no references to coverage in independent reliable sources. The 2½-year-old piece in Bild mentioned above by Agathoclea says the subject played for Poland U15, didn't make the Germany U15 39-boy group, but might in the future: I'd guess it wouldn't have been worth a mention had he not been the son of a very well known Poland international footballer. I've had a quick look for "significant coverage in reliable secondary sources that are independent of the subject", but can't find anything above routine sports journalism. Hence delete, and recreate when and if he does something worthy of note. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 12:10, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete - as above. He has not played in a fully pro league, so the fact that he fails WP:NSPORT is not in dispute. All coverage of him so far has been trivial meaning he also fails WP:GNG. Sir Sputnik (talk) 16:11, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Merge and redirect to Andrzej Kobylański, since there are reliable sources covering this player, and the article as it exists now would not be overly long for a "personal" section within a notable athlete's article. Rlendog (talk) 20:12, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
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