Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Martin Musatov (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   speedy delete. G4 ~ fl 01:46, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Martin Musatov
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Non-notable screen writer. No significant third-party sources. Also, wrote the script for a film which is being considered for deletion. Also, this article was deleted in a previous AfD, but I'm not sure whether the content was changed or not, so I'm not going to CSD it. A v  N  10:49, 26 April 2009 (UTC)


 * There is significant third party sources in IMDb as well as Variety magazine. I have also added Mr. Musatov's work as a noted Community Faculty Member at Metropolitan State University. Hey, it may not be a big deal where you are but there are lot of people in the Midwest who really look up to Mr. Musatov and what he has achieved in Los Angeles growing up outside of Hollywood and attending the inaugural of a screen writing program and then going on to write a film that achieved a $5 Million dollar budget and was produced. There are only 200 or less each year of the two million scripts floating around Hollywood. How does the inclusion of this article violate Wikipedia's goals with respect to their purpose and obligation as a 501c(3)? Solsticefan (talk) 10:53, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm removing your level 2 heading to improve readability and page structure. I do not know what you mean by 501c(3), so I cannot comment on that. As for your viewpoint, you might be correct. That's what this discussion is for, to see if we can reach a consensus. Meanwhile do not remove the AfD template like you did here, as I will revert. Thank you. A  v  N  11:05, 26 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Variety magazine makes for a good source, but IMDB isn't. They take user-generated content, post it without providing the sources and although they do have a editorial policy, they regularly post false information. - Mgm|(talk) 11:24, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete, borderline G4 speedy. Original AfD was on two grounds: undue self-promotion and lack of reliable sources. Article is no longer promotional but the coverage still amounts to a mention in an article about someone else. If a lot of people in the Midwest look up to Mustov, there ought to be a lot of articles about him by now. Show me those and this article can stay. Chris Neville-Smith (talk) 11:30, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete WP:CSD. So tagged. Article is not significantly different in content than the version that existed for most of the previous discussion. Article creator is a very likely sockpuppet of Martin.musatov and should be blocked like the previous ones. (In addition, he removed the AfD notice.) He hasn't explicitly been banned, so WP:CSD doesn't apply. In any case he's no more notable than he was the last time around. —David Eppstein (talk) 16:36, 26 April 2009 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.