Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Martina Del Bonta


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The result was   delete. joe deckertalk to me 18:04, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

Martina Del Bonta

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No indications that this biography meets criteria for inclusion. A local sports reporter in a fairly small market. Claim of notability as being "the first female full time sports anchor in that market" are 1) unverified and 2) not necessarily notable. If she were the first female full time sports anchor in any market, or in the entire country, etc, that might be notable, but this minor claim is not. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 11:39, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
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Actually I found it interesting that you found nothing noteworthy about an individual who is a Sports Anchor in a "small market," let alone a woman. Obviously your familiarity with the world of sports journalism is more limited than mine. I actually deleted the comment on being the first women in her market becasue there is no written citation. However the timing is interesting when you consider that she will be speaking to a graduate course at the University of Missouri on Monday on her experiences in a male dominated profession. She was asked to do so by Professor Rick McGwire who is a professor of Sports Psychology and also the coach of Track and Field at Mizzou. A little about him:

"Dr. McGuire has provided leadership and service to the coaches and athletes of track and field throughout his career. In 1983 he founded - and for 26 years has led - the sport psychology program for USA Track and Field. Now with a staff of more than 30 sport psychology professionals, this program is considered the finest sport psychology service delivery program in the world today and serves as a model for USOC national sport governing bodies. McGuire also serves as curriculum coordinator and lead instructor for USA Track and Field's Coaches Education Program.

Coach McGuire has served on the staff for nine United States National Track and Field Teams, including the 1992 and 1996 Olympic Team staffs for Barcelona and Atlanta. He has also served with our national teams at the 1995 World Championships, the 1990 World Cup, the 1988 and 1986 World Junior Championships, the 1986 Junior Pan American Games, and for dual meet competitions with Cuba in 1987 and Romania in 1986.

In December 2006, McGuire was elected as President of the NCAA Division I branch of the U.S. Track and Field and Cross Country Coaches Association (USTFCCCA). In addition, he recently completed his four-year term as a member of the NCAA Track and Field Committee. In 2000, McGuire served as president of the Missouri Track and Cross County Coaches Association (MTCCCA)."

I find it interesting that a man with his credentials would find what martina is doing "noteworthy" while you do not.

I also found that there are five other news people amongst the twenty-seven "Famous Residents" in her home town. MrDel71 (talk) 22:33, 20 April 2011 (UTC)MrDel71 — Preceding unsigned comment added by MrDel71 (talk • contribs)  — MrDel71 (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.  Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   07:34, 25 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment The fact that Dr. McGuire finds Del Bonta to be suitable speaker to his graduate course is hardly a sign of notability. MrDel is advised to read the Wikipedia criteria for inclusion more carefully. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 15:55, 21 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete No newspaper or other Reliable Source seems to have taken note of her. Literally none . MrDel, please understand that Wikipedia has a very precise definition of "notable" which you can read HERE. It requires that independent, reliable sources have provided significant coverage about the person. It's not a value judgment on her, or a criticism of her career; it's just a reflection of what has (or hasn't) been said about her by independent sources. I know this can be frustrating to new users, but Wikipedia has to have standards. Regardless of what happens with this nomination, please do stick around and continue to contribute to articles about which you have an interest. --MelanieN (talk) 23:02, 23 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Why not make her verify it and then reconsider. I say -suspend judgment until she improves, within a reasonable time-frame. Thank you Pvujin (talk) 10:13, 25 April 2011 (UTC) ps. being a woman is hard in the US, especially in sports.
 * Comment Because, even if verified, the fact would not make her notable. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 11:08, 25 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete. I've done a few searches and have to disagree with MrDel. Subject is not notable enough for Wikipedia yet. See WP:CREATIVE which gives the criteria for journalists - the only feasible one would be: "The person is regarded as an important figure or is widely cited by peers or successors" which has not been demonstrated.Asnac (talk) 13:29, 25 April 2011 (UTC)
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