Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Marvin Cohen (dental surgeon)


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The result was   delete. JohnCD (talk) 22:07, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

Marvin Cohen (dental surgeon)

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Article's subject would be notable for inventing what is said to be a new type of mouthwash, but I have not been able to source this. I nominated the article for this product, SmartMouth, for deletion also.

Also he founded a company, Triumph Pharmaceuticals Inc., which seems to exist only to sell this single product. He is said (with no citation) to be a member of at least two professional organizations, but he seems not to be an officer or otherwise notable in the management of either. I checked the staff pages of both here and here.  Blue Rasberry  16:49, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

Mandsford 00:04, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
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 * Keep About as notable as a dentist can be expected to be, in that he seems to have been making the news for the last 20 years   and  (which refers to a 1994 article in Readers' Digest).  The press seems to have dubbed him a "leading expert on halitosis", and sought his wisdom  on the subject.


 * DeleteI would say delete both articles. Marvin Cohen, D.D.S. did write the encyclopedic article on halitosis and is the inventor of SmarthMouth, which is sold by his small business Triumph Pharmaceuticals Inc. This company has about 15 employees. The company also doesn't have a stock. Mel Rosenberg has done more work on halitosis than he has.HaterofIgnorance (talk) 00:17, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete. Although not an academic instructor, the claim to fame (i.e. "one of the world’s leading authorities on the etiology, diagnosis, and treatment of halitosis") needs to be matched against WP:PROF, specifically #1. It fails. GHits are not impressive in that it is commonplace for some medical professionals to court the press more than others. Membership in professional organizations and associations is not an indicator of notability. Location (talk) 04:02, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete - Needs to satisfy WP:PROF in this case, and I don't see that, but correct me if I'm wrong. Shadowjams (talk) 08:43, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
 * "[I]t is possible for an academic not to be notable under the provisions of this guideline but to be notable in some other way under one of the other subject specific notability guidelines. Conversely, if an academic is notable under this guideline, his or her possible failure to meet other subject specific notability guidelines is irrelevant." A professor, dentist, physician, etc. can meet WP:GNG without meeting WP:PROF.  The idea behind WP:PROF is that a lot of very significant academicians won't be well-known in the general press.  Indeed, the trend among the academic elite is to avoid the mainstream media.  Within academia, professors who seek their fame by becoming regularly quoted in the mainstream press are often looked down upon by their peers as egotists making up for their lack of achievement within the community.  Mandsford 15:25, 21 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Delete It appears that Mel Rosenberg is indeed the world's foremost expert on bad breath. Dr. Cohen is merely breathing hot air Vartanza (talk) 11:48, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
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