Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Marxist–Leninist Communist Party of Greece


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was withdrawn by nominator. Thine Antique Pen (talk) 00:16, 22 November 2014 (UTC)

Marxist–Leninist Communist Party of Greece

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Total lack of supporting references and sources. The Gnome (talk) 17:48, 11 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Greece-related deletion discussions. NorthAmerica1000 03:56, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Politics-related deletion discussions. NorthAmerica1000 03:56, 12 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Strong Keep political parties are notable, and lack of citations is not a reason for deletion. Constantine  ✍  08:09, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Notability of political parties does not override the Wikipedia rule on citations. Moreover, notability itself is demonstrated only by citing "third-party", "reliable sources". The current entry is simply the translation of a Greek Wikipedia entry that does not include any citations either - see this criterion for speedy deletion. -The Gnome (talk) 04:49, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Also, notability in one language does not necessarily translate to notability in another language. If it were like this, we'd have all entries present in all languages! Editors interested in keeping this article up should find some reliable citations for it. Currently, there are none whatsoever, despite the tag that's up there since 2012. -The Gnome (talk) 19:07, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
 * I agree with your point on citations required to demonstrate notability, but I pretty much don't agree with your other remarks. WP:CSD is for straight copy/paste dumps from other non-English wikipedias, which this clearly isn't. Even if it were in another language you're more likely to stumble across a translate this tag, rather than a delete one. And notability in another language does make it notable in another, provided that the notability requirements are the same. Just because a source is in a different language shouldn't automatically make it unreliable because it's not in English (or any other language you don't personally happen to understand). Fuebaey (talk) 03:20, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
 * I do not claim that a source in a non-English language makes for an "unreliable" reference. It would be ludicrous to claim that. (More so because I also happen to use non-English sources, when necessary.) I would, in fact, be content to keep the article if someone were to take the trouble and insert sources in Greek. This proposal for deletion should have alerted interested editors into getting to work on the article's non-existent references. But so far nothing is being done. -The Gnome (talk) 02:19, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
 * The article now has references, and is better off for it (thanks to Soman for his contributions as well), but bringing an article to AfD to essentially force people into adding references (because that is the gist of the deletion rationale both here and in the sister article) is the wrong way to go about it. Constantine  ✍  16:26, 18 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep, lack of citations is not a valid reason for deletion. Plenty online material is available if someone is interested to expand it. --Soman (talk) 16:19, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
 * On the contrary, lack of citations is expressly a "valid reason" for deleting an article, This particular article has been tagged for lack of citations since 2012. Enough already. -The Gnome (talk) 04:49, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 01:09, 13 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NorthAmerica1000 13:14, 19 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep I was able to drag up some coverage from a book about Maoism that I've added to the article. I'm sure there is more in Greek but I can't read a word of it. Keresaspa (talk) 15:50, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep The current state of the entry does not warrant its deletion, as far as having adequate references is concerned. Therefore, I'm obliged to withdraw my nomination for deletion. -The Gnome (talk) 19:01, 20 November 2014 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.