Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mary Anderson (Mayor, Kinney, MN)


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The result was   keep owing to no consensus but later leaning somewhat towards keep. Gwen Gale (talk) 00:19, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Mary Anderson (Mayor, Kinney, MN)

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Mayor of a small town which once seceded in protest of lack of government services. Though interesting, it's still only one event. Google shows very little other than this article. A previous prod was contested. Plvekamp (talk) 03:18, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions.   -- Plvekamp (talk) 03:28, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak keep. This crosses the notability line to me on the second bullet point in WP:POLITICIAN. ~ Antiselfpromotion (talk) 05:44, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep mayors are inherently notable. She was born in 1915, so Google hits are not going to be plentiful. Lack of Google hits does not support lack of notability, verifiable sources may not be online for someone born that long ago. The place to look would be in the local newspaper morgue. Actually, the article is sourced via paper, with articles in papers from Duluth and Minneapolis. So, maybe the morgues of not so local papers. The article is in serious need of rewriting, though.  Dloh  cierekim  06:58, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Expand rationale and thanks to those with keep arguments below. Thaks to those who added sources and cleaned the thing up.  Dloh  cierekim  20:11, 15 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete. Nothing indicating anything more than WP:LOCAL significance for this mayor of a town of 199. Additionally, the article seems suspiciously like WP:SPAM for the book about her. The article about the town covers the secession in sufficient detail. --Dhartung | Talk 07:06, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Pity the creator did not use the book to give us more substantial info instead of that fluff. Cheers,  Dloh  cierekim  07:29, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete. The notion that mayors are inherently notable is patently untrue. The town in question, Kinney, has a population of a few hundreds. Subject was not mayor at the time of secession. Punkmorten (talk) 08:20, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete Mayors are not inherently notable, and there are no reliable sources about this one. Ten Pound Hammer  and his otters • (Broken clamshells•Otter chirps) 15:41, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete. It actually took me a while to come to this conclusion - the article does seem to have sources, and while they largely are unavailable online their existence seems to check out.  She was indeed the mayor of Kinney during the 'secession' and played a role in it, thus the existence of some news articles mentioning her.  However, the one single event that might have made her notable gets only lip service in this article - the rest is all fluff that does appear to be an attempt to promote a book.  In any case, as Dhartung has pointed out, the secession (and her involvement in it) is well covered in the article about the town and beyond that there's nothing left for this article. Arkyan 17:32, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Merge into Kinney, Minnesota. -- brew crewer  (yada, yada) 21:44, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak keep' according to WP:LOACLFAME, local notability is, to some degree, noatbility. Ben1283 (talk) 17:07, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep. Article is already well cited and I added some more sources that I hope will more clearly demonstrate her notability.  She also apparently gets a shout-out in the New Times of Russia, among other iron-curtain sources, but Google Books only has snippet views for that issue, and I can't read her mention.  (Apparently in the 1970s, Russians were really interested in Americans who wanted to secede from the union.  Who knew?)  Ditto for the minutes of her testimony before the United States Senate Finance Subcommittee on International Trade and Global Competitiveness.  Ford MF (talk) 17:01, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep Seems to be significant enough coverage in reliable sources to establish notability per WP:BIO and WP:LOCAL is only an essay. Have removed the section that seemed to be promoting a book. Davewild (talk) 18:18, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep - I agree that small town mayors aren't usually notable. However, the subject proposed a declaration of independence in order to receive foreign aid, a strategy that was modestly successful. Accordingly, keep, because of significant coverage in reliable sources. PhilKnight (talk) 18:36, 15 June 2008 (UTC)


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