Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mary Ann Childers (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Mark Arsten (talk) 02:06, 4 December 2015 (UTC)

Mary Ann Childers
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Certainly time for another AfD as the first one had no benefits at all; this article is questionably notable and improvable and even speedy and PROD material but as I found some links here, here, here and here. Basically, the only seemingly outstanding part of the article is "first female to anchor a top-rated 10pm newscast" (which is what made me reconsider boldly tagging as A7) but that's hardly notable for one major city's timeslot. Notifying author and also  who lists to be notified. SwisterTwister  talk  03:32, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
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 * Automated comment: This AfD was not correctly transcluded to the log (step 3). I have transcluded it to Articles for deletion/Log/2015 November 22.  —cyberbot I   Talk to my owner :Online 03:56, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete. probably delete unless there's something substantial for the years after 2008.  DGG ( talk ) 04:43, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep Childers was a prominent, long-serving newscaster in a major media market. Over the years, both Chicago newspapers have had reporters who focused solely on Chicago's own media scene, and Childers' career was covered in a fairly good amount of detail. The current Wiki page cites a few articles, but there are a lot more. For example, the "Blond beauty" article was just one of a four-part series of 600+ word articles by Robert Feder (literally called "Mary Ann Childers -- The Mini Series"; there's even one Chicago Reader article about the series itself:). She's now working in PR, so the level of coverage isn't what it once was, but I think she has earned her place in Chicago history. Zagal e jo^^^ 19:05, 27 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Just wanted to add one thing: in 1987, Robert Feder wrote, "With the obvious exception of Oprah Winfrey, the most popular television stars in Chicago today are WLS-Channel 7 anchors John Drury and Mary Ann Childers." (This is cited in the article.) Zagal e jo^^^ 01:06, 29 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Comment Why bring this to AfD at all, when the last discussion was Speedy keep? Megalibrarygirl (talk) 05:05, 28 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Several factors, (1) the nominator situation affected the AfD entirely, (2) there was hardly an actual consensus for "speedy keep" and (3) the article still currently looks questionably notable and improvable and I haven't found any means of better improvement. I'm all for this being restarted better if needed though, SwisterTwister   talk  05:20, 28 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks,, I took a better look at the old AfD and you're right, there was no consensus... just one vote. Weird that it showed up as a "speedy keep," I'd have written that up as "undetermined!" Megalibrarygirl (talk) 05:23, 28 November 2015 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * keep sources exist, per above, so article should exist. -- Jayron 32 05:27, 28 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep Perhaps I'm a bit out of line, but why would someone suggest a fairly well-sourced article about a high profile TV news anchor in a major market for deletion? There are so many pages on here for obscure bands, actors/actresses, etc.  Because a couple people feel that Mary Ann Childers isn't notable?  I think there are millions of viewers for whom she was a household name for more than a decade.  -Skatefan (talk) 05:49, 29 November 2015 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 14:25, 29 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep Well sourced article, profile in major daily paper.E.M.Gregory (talk)


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