Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mary Ann Liebert, Inc.


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was speedy keep. Per WP:SK, nomination withdrawn and no outstanding delete !votes. (non-admin closure) Sam Sailor Talk! 19:57, 12 July 2016 (UTC)

Mary Ann Liebert, Inc.

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Publisher's notability is based on re-published press releases. For example, citation 6 in the WP article can be found on the Mary Ann Liebert, Inc.'s site. I could not find coverage in reliable sources, so this article fails WP:ORG. Delta13C (talk) 12:11, 9 July 2016 (UTC)

Withdrawn by nominator Changed my mind, and it looks like WP:SNOW is happening here. Delta13C (talk) 03:52, 12 July 2016 (UTC)


 * comment this article was sitting without any citations since 2013 and now the moment I start adding any type of citations, it is immediately nominated for deletion. There is something intrinsically wrong with that.  However, I won't oppose whatever the community decides the fate of the article should be. --User:Ceyockey ( talk to me ) 13:58, 9 July 2016 (UTC)
 * comment I've reverted the article to the state prior to the recent edits I've done ... all bad additions of press releases ... and I've transplanted the AfD notice back to this version, which has 0 citations, which is the state it had been in for years. This is the version which should be considered for deletion. --User:Ceyockey ( talk to me ) 14:49, 9 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I was switching out the citations with the press releases, when you upstreamed me. No problem. Delta13C (talk) 14:54, 9 July 2016 (UTC)
 * I was doing that as well, then just said 'what's the use ... nobody wants these in the absence of real citations'. --User:Ceyockey ( talk to me ) 14:58, 9 July 2016 (UTC)


 * comment I've added two proper citations from historical versions of the article (one was an external link). --User:Ceyockey ( talk to me ) 15:48, 9 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Literature-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 17:19, 9 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Companies-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 17:19, 9 July 2016 (UTC)


 * Keep, Mary Ann Liebert is a clearly notable publisher of several notable academic journals. Headbomb {talk / contribs / physics / books} 17:07, 10 July 2016 (UTC)


 * Keep, check the journals listed on PubMed if there is question that Mary Ann Liebert is a publisher of many scholarly journals
 * AIDS Research and Human Retroviruses
 * Astrobiology (journal)
 * DNA and Cell Biology
 * Journal of Women's Health
 * etc. All of the journals in PubMed amount to lots of links. If you think this article needs more links, search for some or try to get somebody else to do it by adding "citations needed" --Ben Best:Talk 18:25, 10 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment: We need sources talking about the publisher, not a list of what's been published. This would technically be a kind of WP:OR. There is no guideline for publishers, so WP:BASIC should apply. I do not think there are enough sources that pass it. Delta13C (talk) 03:16, 11 July 2016 (UTC)
 * side discussion which arose during this deletion discussion ... should have been put here rather than on the article's talk page, in my opinion. See Talk:Mary Ann Liebert, Inc.. --User:Ceyockey ( talk to me ) 21:46, 11 July 2016 (UTC)
 * will have useful feedback here I'm sure. Headbomb {talk / contribs / physics / books} 01:16, 12 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep. It is an important though relatively minor scientific publisher. WP is best served if we keep information about publishers of material likely to be used in sourcing articles. This, like journals, is one ofthe fields where we sometimes have to make exceptions to the GNG in order to be realistic.   DGG ( talk ) 02:46, 12 July 2016 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.