Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mary Billings French


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The result was   keep. The consensus seems clear enough after the relisting. Only the nom argued for deletion.  DGG ( talk ) 06:32, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

Mary Billings French

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Fails WP:GNG. -- WV ● ✉ ✓ 03:37, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
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"Inherited notability perhaps"? I think you don't have a clear understanding of WP:INHERITED and how that is not acceptable per GNG. -- WV ● ✉ ✓ 21:40, 7 March 2015 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
 * Keep - inherited notability perhaps. But still notable. Per WP:GNG. --BabbaQ (talk) 18:17, 7 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Speedy Keep - She doesn't fail WP:GNG at all. It's important to WP:GOOGLETEST but because of the time period you need to search under the term "Mrs. John French" to identify sources (for instance, "Greenwich Woman Named President of Y. W. C. A." May 26, 1938 and "National Y.W.C.A. Leader To Serve Another Year" May 04, 1939 and "MRS. JOHN FRENCH, Y.W.C.A. LEADER; Former President of National Board Dies at 82--Broke a Hip Three Days Ago" June 15, 1951) Fiachra10003 (talk) 02:55, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, &mdash; Coffee //  have a cup  //  beans  // 01:05, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep - Again NOTINHERITED doesn't even apply .... there's enough sources and information to warrant an own article. Someone just speedy Keep this. – Davey 2010 Talk 03:20, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete as nom. -- WV ● ✉ ✓ 01:12, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep agree with Davey2010. Also for upper class/rich women of that generation being president of charity organisations such as the YMCA was a notable achievement, given the limited access they had to politics and other spheres of society. There is a danger that dismissing such biographies Wikipedia editors are displaying a systemic bias. Is being president of the YMCA less of an achievement and less notable than being a member of the NFL, playing for a first class county cricket team? Wikipedia is not paper based so including this woman does not exclude someone else. -- PBS (talk) 18:19, 16 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep per PBS et al. YWCA was a big thing back in the 1930s, and being its national president meant something.  Furthermore, her primary residence is now a national park.  FWIW, I've visited her house. Bearian (talk) 01:05, 17 March 2015 (UTC)
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