Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mary Devins


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 00:37, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

Mary Devins

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Nomination for AFD as recommended at BLP Noticeboard  G  ain  Line  ♠♥ 15:54, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Law-related deletion discussions.  --  I 'mperator 16:11, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Living people-related deletion discussions.  --  J mundo 16:12, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment I find it more than a little hypocritical of Gainline to suggest deleting this article after complaining that the "contents of the page are almost exclusively to do with Judge Devins involvement with the Shell to Sea campaign" when he was the first to give it that skew: . Previously the article only had as much S2S info as it did about her trouble with police honesty. Lapsed Pacifist (talk) 14:07, 5 May 2009 (UTC)


 * This was information from the article on Maura Harrington & was originally introduced by you into her article . This was originally part of my attempts to expand the article which failed as I couldn't find anything of note anywhere. Why would you have info on someone in one persons article but not in their own? You obviously deemed it worthy of keeping as you added to the point . G  ain  Line  ♠♥ 17:02, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm not saying you shouldn't have added it: I'm saying it's hypocritical of you to complain about an article being skewed largely because of material you added yourself.. Lapsed Pacifist (talk) 13:40, 8 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete Judges at this level are not notable. At presen tthe dispiute is confined to her local court, and is about one issue only, with only local attention. DGG (talk) 16:15, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete per the D to the double G. Obviously this judge is NN.  JBsupreme (talk) 16:35, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete, nn. Thanks! Fin©™ 16:52, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete - non-notable person. Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:10, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep - Devins is easily the most controversial judge in the west of Ireland. The article is not just about one issue, as has been suggested. She's also notable for being the only spouse of a government minister in the judiciary, and for her outspoken criticism of the police dishonesty she encounters. Lapsed Pacifist (talk) 18:28, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete non-notable on the evidence presented in the article. --Cameron Scott (talk) 23:47, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment: can you be more specific? Lapsed Pacifist (talk) 17:26, 2 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete article isn't really a bio and should probably be a section in another article in a reduced form. Smartse (talk) 12:06, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete Non-notable judge who has a notable case that is already discussed in its own article, Shell to Sea. In the entire article, the only part that does not have to do with the case is the first two sentences, "Mary Devins is a District Court judge in County Mayo, Ireland. She is the wife of Minister of State at the Department of Health and Children, Dr. Jimmy Devins from Sligo." TJRC (talk) 18:02, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment You've missed: "She caused controversy in 2004 when she wondered aloud in court whether she could trust the evidence of members of An Garda Síochána  ." and "In the same month, she again criticised a Garda for dishonesty ". Lapsed Pacifist (talk) 14:07, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Ireland-related deletion discussions.  --  Fabrictramp  |  talk to me  23:07, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete - non notable. Snappy (talk) 00:11, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete, a local official of very minor notability. The attention she has gained is confined only to her local area, and given that the article is being turned into a BLP minefield, I think it prudent to delete.  Lankiveil (speak to me) 12:18, 6 May 2009 (UTC).
 * Comment Devins' decisions get written about in national newspapers and magazines; that would take a pretty loose definition of "her own local area". You're the first to mention BLP problems; could you expand on that? Lapsed Pacifist (talk) 13:40, 8 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Comment can those who are voting to delete on the basis of non-notability please refer me to which part of WP:N they mean? I've read through it and this article seems to tick all the boxes. Lapsed Pacifist (talk) 13:40, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.