Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mary Elizabeth Butt


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. I understand the arguments for deletion, but I find the arguments to keep slightly more policy-based at this time (✉→BWilkins←✎) 09:50, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

Mary Elizabeth Butt

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any notability would be inherited, so unless I'm missing something, I would think she fails WP:N as the only mentions of her on the web (based on my google search) were already cited and pertained primarily to her death; I just don't think she's notable. Go  Phightins  !  23:28, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

She has a page devoted her at the Texas State Historical Association which is cited in the wiki entry. Clearly they think she is somewhat important to Texas history. http://www.tshaonline.org/handbook/online/articles/fbuayPatapsco913 (talk)
 * Be that as it may, I think that multiple, non-trivial sources would be needed to establish notability. Go   Phightins  !  03:00, 14 November 2012 (UTC)

I do not think that an entry with the Texas State Historical Society or a book featuring her as one of the founders of Texas philanthropy are trivial sources. Her activities were not inheritances: her husband made the money, she drove the philanthropy. If we had access to news articles from the 40s and 50s, she would surely be mentioned (since she was the driving the driving force behind many of the charitable oraganizations in the region); as we don't, we have to rely on post-mortem summaries of her contributions. Anyhow this lady was a pioneer so I really do not see any reason at all to delete this entry.Patapsco913 (talk)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. — Frankie (talk) 18:39, 15 November 2012 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — Theo polisme  23:39, 19 November 2012 (UTC)

 
 * Keep as subject is covered in multiple reliable third-party sources, crossing the verifiability and notability thresholds. Notability is not a competition. - Dravecky (talk) 20:40, 20 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Forgive me for interjecting, but where is it asserted that notability is a competition. Go   Phightins  !  20:48, 20 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete per Go Phightins. --Sue Rangell ✍ ✉ 21:36, 20 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete, or Redirect to H-E-B as was done with her husband. Howard Edward Butt, who has just as much coverage as she does from the Texas State Historical Society. Her awards are trivial, her philanthropy is excellent but not unusual for a woman of her means, and she was not a "pioneer" in any sense. (1903-1993 was not the "pioneer" period in Texas.) --MelanieN (talk) 04:07, 27 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep, relevant for the history of Texas, as evidenced also by the awards and the 1995 Senate Resolution of the Senate of Texas. (Actually I added the Senate Resolution to the article now, as it had not yet been taken up in the article so far.) --Chris Howard (talk) 19:42, 27 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Monty  845  18:55, 28 November 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep per Dravecky and Chris Howard. The Texas Senate Resolution honoring Mary Butt firmly establishes her notability.  Legislative resolutions are the ultimate secondary source.  Guðsþegn (talk) 22:22, 28 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep - A state senate resolution is certainly significant, and the article could certainly use better sources, but I'd say there's enough there to be notable per WP:GNG. - SudoGhost 16:40, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
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