Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mary Johnson Harris


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. –  Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 03:14, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

Mary Johnson Harris

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She is a regional representative to a state  school board. Such positions do not lead to the assumption of notability.  DGG ( talk ) 05:01, 30 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions.  SwisterTwister   talk  05:16, 30 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Louisiana-related deletion discussions.  SwisterTwister   talk  05:16, 30 October 2015 (UTC)
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 * 'Delete - Simply nothing to suggest better here with a local school board member. SwisterTwister   talk  05:16, 30 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete doesn't appear to pass WP:GNG. A few related articles also should be considered alongside this one:
 * James Garvey (Louisiana politician)
 * Gary Jones (Louisiana politician)
 * Holly Boffy
 * Sandy Holloway
 * Ilikeeatingwaffles (talk) 09:00, 30 October 2015 (UTC)


 * Keep. Represents eleven parishes on state Board of Education. Qualifies as regional political office. Same with above members who represent multiple parishes as well. Billy Hathorn (talk) 12:49, 30 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete. Low-level politician (on state school board) is not sufficient for automatic notability (which I don't believe in anyway). Either way there are no sources that assert this subject's remarkability, as also reflected in its lack of sources. czar  14:31, 30 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. Necrothesp (talk) 15:17, 30 October 2015 (UTC)
 * The story is in progress for the November 21 election Billy Hathorn (talk) 15:59, 30 October 2015 (UTC) and has been refurbished. Billy Hathorn (talk) 20:47, 1 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete this and the other four listed by . No in-depth coverage to demonstrate notability by our standards. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 22:47, 2 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment: Coverage now includes four newspapers, a magazine, a radio station, and two television stations thus far. Billy Hathorn (talk) 16:11, 3 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Weak keep or userfy: I have evaluated each source currently cited in the article. Ignoring the Secretary of State, facebook and other sources that could not demonstrate notability in any case (and skipping the Google Drive source since Drive crashes my browser), here's what I found for the media sources:
 * Shreveport Times obituary — Clearly submitted to the paper by someone with COI and run in exchange for payment; ignored.
 * Interview in City Life — Interviews don't demonstrate notability.
 * Times-Picayune article — Substantial coverage.
 * Monroe News-Star article – Mere mention.
 * KTBS-TV article — Mere mention.
 * Bossier Press-Tribune article — Mere mention.
 * 2nd KTBS-TV article — Mere mention.
 * KEEL-AM listing — A listing, not an article.
 * ksl.com article — More than a mere mention, but not quite substantial.
 * KSLA-TV article — Also falls short of substantial.
 * Shreveport Times article — Another that's more than a mere mention, yet somewhat less than substantial.
 * Tallying up the sources, I'm inclined toward keeping the article, even though it's an edge case for notability. A fair amount of work has gone into the article, and given the contentiousness of the fight over Common Core in Louisiana it seems likely there will be future substantial coverage of Harris in that regard. This may be a case of WP:TOOSOON. If the article is not kept in mainspace, I advocate for it to be userfied rather than simply deleted, and am willing to take it on in my own user space if article creator doesn't want to. — GrammarFascist   contribs talk 16:13, 8 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete Local coverage of a school board member is not acceptable for inclusion in a global encyclopaedia. AusLondonder (talk) 22:52, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
 * , this is not a local-level school board but the school board at the state level; members are responsible for policy decisions that affect the entire state, and each represent a region within the state, not merely a local municipality. Did you perhaps misunderstand what Harris's position actually is? — GrammarFascist  contribs talk 21:41, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
 * I still do not believe Johnson Harris is notable on the scale necessary for a global encyclopaedia. AusLondonder (talk) 21:44, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment. With so much coverage from multiple sources, this article could also qualify as local politician under the notability guideline though she is a regional figure. There is a place on Wikiepdia for "local politicians": it says so specifically in the rules. I have seen many British and Australian "local politicians" on the board too. Billy Hathorn (talk) 01:54, 11 November 2015 (UTC) 2. Major local political figures who have received significant press coverage. is the specific line in the rules. Billy Hathorn (talk) 11:45, 11 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Keep Why is this here? I'm of the opinion that before an article even gets to AfD some ought to check them first. If GrammarFascist can find that much info and as Billy Hathorn stated, "major local political figures who have received significant press coverage", it shouldn't be here... or is this just another case of no one willing to take the time to do a rewrite?! --MurderByDeadcopy"bang!" 17:28, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep per and especially based on the two substantial articles that go in depth about her. , her position seems to be more akin to the New York Board of Regents. Bearian (talk) 21:29, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Seems so. I'm withdrawing the AfD, but someone else will have to close it, as there are other deletes than my own.  DGG ( talk ) 22:16, 11 November 2015 (UTC)


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