Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mary Livingstone (née Moffat)


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The result was   keep. (non-admin closure) DavidLeighEllis (talk) 01:45, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

Mary Livingstone (née Moffat)

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Per WP:BIO, being married to a notable person does not automatically confer notability on the subject. Rumours of alcoholism and adultery hardly do it either. FunkyCanute (talk) 15:47, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep. She is the subject of at least two recent books:
 * Edna Healey,Wives of Fame: Mary Livingstone, Jenny Marx and Emma Darwin (Bloomsbury Publishing, 2011), ISBN 978-1448207725 (Google Books here)
 * Julie Davidson, Looking for Mrs. Livingstone (Saint Andrew Press, reprinted by Hymns Ancient and Modern, 2012), ISBN 978-0715209646 (Google Books here).


 * The latter book's author wrote a column about it for The Daily Telegraph, which is already cited in our Wikipedia article; here's a review in The Scotsman. The subject clearly passes WP:BASIC. --Arxiloxos (talk) 22:52, 18 February 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep Being the subject of two major books clearly is enough to be notable.John Pack Lambert (talk) 07:27, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Comment This page needs major improvements in its contents. I have grave reservations about the "it was rumored" section. I would suspect use of the "Wives of Fame" book would give us much more helpful information. However being a poorly written article is no reason to delete.John Pack Lambert (talk) 07:34, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
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 * Keep per book sources mentioned. Unsourced rumours must be removed, however. -- 101.119.27.149 (talk) 00:50, 22 February 2014 (UTC)
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 * Keep -- The wife of a missionary will almost inevitably also be a missionary, not merely a wife. She is probably not as notable as her very notable husband,  but she is certainly not NN.  Peterkingiron (talk) 15:47, 23 February 2014 (UTC)
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