Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mas que alcanzar una estrella (album)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   no consensus. Xymmax So let it be written   So let it be done  01:00, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Mas que alcanzar una estrella (album)

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Soundtrack to red link film. Only a couple artists, no notability asserted. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Many otters • One hammer • HELP) 01:29, 6 May 2009 (UTC) Delete Essentially an orphaned article referenced no where; the only pages listed in the "What Links Here" page for the article are two very similar articles and pages associated with deletion. Also, the article is unreferenced. PCHS-NJROTC (Messages) 01:36, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Also listing the following for the same reason (lack of notability, orphaned, not referenced anywhere):

…And why the heck do so many editors think that every album article needs (album) in the title?! Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Many otters • One hammer • HELP) 02:11, 6 May 2009 (UTC) 
 * Delete the lot, no notability per WP:MUSIC. Esradekan Gibb (talk) 06:38, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions.  —-- Avant-garde a clue - hexa  Chord 2  09:17, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 19:18, 13 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep I think you need to list these separately. Mas que alcanzar una estrella achieves notability through Ricky Martin, one of the artists.  Very clearly a keep.   Yes, Ricky Martin was in a sequel to a Mexican telenovela and is on the soundtrack even if he would like the world to forget.  Drawn Some (talk) 19:47, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
 * A notable act on a compo album doesn't make the whole compo notable. And if the telenovela is notable, why doesn't it have an article? Let's not put the cart before the horse. Ten Pound Hammer  and his otters • (Many otters • One hammer • HELP) 20:33, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I didn't see the rule that "a notable act on a compo album doesn't make the whole compo notable", although it would make sense. On the other hand, if we are concerned about putting carts before horses, since when is notability determined by whether there is a Wikipedia article yet or not?  Especially on non-English topics. Rlendog (talk) 19:55, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm not too versed in the music stuff, that's why I don't usually comment. The way the Spanish Wikipedia handled these is the soundtracks are part of the articles on the telenovelas.  They are notable.  If you're not familiar with telenovelas, they are more like a one-season soap opera in the evening and everyone watches them, more like a mini-series than a soap opera.  "Ugly Betty" was a telenovela remade for English-speaking US audiences.  The reason they all say "album" is because they are soundtracks. Drawn Some (talk) 20:52, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Also some of these DO have articles here. Drawn Some (talk) 20:56, 13 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep - The reason given for the nomination is that these are soundtracks to redlinked films. The fact that the telenovelas are redlinked does not mean that they are not notable.  In fact, several of them do have articles on the Spanish Wikipedia, and their editors are generally in a better position to assess the notability of these subjects than the average English Wikipedia editor.  In addition, there are several notable artists included on these albums, which while not a reason to keep in itself, adds some additional weight to their notability. Rlendog (talk) 19:59, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.