Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Masjid Annur Islamic Center


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The result was   keep. T. Canens (talk) 23:47, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

Masjid Annur Islamic Center

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Claims to be the largest mosque in the greater Sacramento area. (Granted, Sacramento is the capital and seventh-largest city in California, so this is not claiming to be the largest in East Podunk or something.) Still, Gnews archives show a few articles on the impact 9/11 had on the attendees, an article about their school, and a few others but nothing that seems to make this particular mosque significant.  Speedy was declined (though editor/admin noted that they thought the Mosque was the largest in the whole State of California), PROD was removed by another editor because of belief that Mosques are "under-represented" and of the school associated with the Mosque. The school does appear to have more coverage but I'm not an expert on school notability guidelines. However, I don't feel that the Mosque itself has met notability guidelines per WP:ORG. If the school does, the article should be on the school and not the Mosque. Mr. Vernon (talk) 04:46, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment - The school is apparently a high school, so would definitely be considered notable. Might be best to create "Al-Arqam Islamic School" and merge the information here into that.Minnowtaur (talk) 06:15, 21 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Keep and improve - largest mosque in the metropolitan area of a major city, significant GNEWS hits from WP:Reliable sources about involvement in fund-raising for the Pakistan earthquake, Muslim community relations, etc. Many of these are unfortunately behind paywalls, but not all. I'll try to improve it. Empty Buffer (talk) 07:58, 21 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Keep Yep, i removed the PROD and I noted in an edit summary that it includes a high school, meeting notability directly by that. I think the article should stay about the mosque first, and include the school coverage;  the school is one program of the mosque.  That one program suffices to establish notability already, but the mosque is more notable, really, whether our easy-to-apply standards recognize that or not.  I also noted in passing that I do believe that mosques are under-represented.  (Aside:  I believe there is exactly one mosque listed on the U.S. National Register of Historic Places, whose 85,000 listings include probably 100 places named "First Presbyterian Church", and thousands of other churches.  There are 3 other NRHP-listed places with "Mosque" in their name but those are Shriners/Elks/Masonic club places.) --doncram (talk) 13:56, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of California-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 19:33, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Islam-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 19:33, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Speedy Keep - As a WP:CAL member, who just went through our deletion sort, I am somewhat shocked to see this center listed. I am not of this faith but aware of all three centers/mosques. This one is next to the old Florin Mall and when it was bought was a major deal in many ways in Sacramento, California. I've incorporated some of its history into a new section that gives the following editors/readers how this center evolved from humble beginnings to the purchase of a former sporting store complex if memory serves me correctly. If one were to follow Highway 99 north to westbound Interstate 80, the next mosque is in West Sacramento and by the eyeball is considerably smaller. Driving towards San Francisco, California the largest mosque sits just past the American Canyon, California region. That one is a very large traditional mosque and I've told friends that even we as Americans should marvel and respect what the Muslims have accomplished in our melting pot. Most of this is not WP:V but as Jimbo Wales would say, "Would I lie?" The basic answer is no because if you delete this, then WP:OTHERSTUFF applies and becomes Buggs (keep) versus Daffy (delete). moreno oso (talk) 18:03, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
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