Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Maskirovka


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was redirect to Military deception. Veinor (talk to me) 15:42, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Maskirovka

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del unnecessary russian language dicdef which is more than adequately rendered by the term military deception. A quote from Russian military encyclopedia is a definition of the Russian langauge term, which is exactly how "military deception" is defined. We are not going to have articles such as oborona (defense) Nastupleniye ("attack") just because the Russian military encyclopedia defines them. `'mikka 03:48, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Categorizing debate: S: Society topics.  ◄    Zahakiel    ►   05:02, 21 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Keep Term is used in many English language essays. Having an explanation of the term here seems okay to me, although the article needs some expansion. Citicat 03:58, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep and expand with more usage examples --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) 04:30, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete I agree with the nominator... an encyclopedia isn't the place to define every foreign language word that may come into use in English. Bad precident.  /Blaxthos 05:08, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Military deception. WP:UE is only overridden in two cases I know of: WP:NC(CN) (as in concrete objects whose names have no widely accepted equivalents in English, where inventing a translation would be WP:OR), and the self-identification, e.g. of an ethnic or religious group. This is neither. However, deletion doesn't seem appropriate given that the term has 219 GBooks hits (unlike oborona or nastupleniye), including some which discuss it non-trivially. I truly despise these "flavour words", like Chinese Guanxi, Japanese Wa, etc. that are used by authors to show off rather than inform; unfortunately, we're not the Academy of the English Language, and don't have the power to proscribe useless words. (Incidentally, see p32 of Chizum's Soviet Radioelectronic Combat for a justification by one author of why he uses the Russian word instead of an equivalent English word; IMO it's weak, but he published about the topic, and I haven't). cab 05:37, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Military deception per cab. And I was going to quote Chizum's Soviet Radioelectronic Combat too, but cab got there first ;) Croxley 06:21, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Military deception per cab. Old american century 09:02, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Redirect. Agree with Blaxthos and cab, there are more and more foreign words creeping in WP which have perfectly fine English equivalents. -- P199 16:42, 21 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Military-related deletions.  -- Carom 16:27, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Redirect per Cab. Just because this term shows up in a few military adventure/spy novels doesn't make it anything more than a dicdef.  RGTraynor 17:05, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Military deception per cab. Despite having a source, this is still a (somewhat lengthy) dicdef.  However, its use in English-language sources justifies a redirect. -- Black Falcon 05:40, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.