Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mass Effect: Revolution


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The result was delete with no prejudice against recreation after the book is published and has reliable sources. JoshuaZ 02:13, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Mass Effect: Revolution

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A short article on a book that doesn't exist. Supporting material, an external link to a press release from the company for which the author works, makes no mention of the title. Fails WP:BK and runs against WP:CBALL Victoriagirl 22:43, 15 June 2007 (UTC) http://game-spectrum.com/content/view/962/151/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Igfi (talk • contribs)
 * Delete per WP:NOTE.--Svetovid 23:36, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete. Only ghits are WP, mirrors, and forum posters who seem to have got their information from WP. WP:CRYSTAL, since the book is not supposed to be published until 2008, which probably means that it hasn't been written yet. Deor 23:39, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:CRYSTAL. --Nonstopdrivel 00:13, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep Here is proof of the novel's existance.  Though it says that the name may only be temporary:
 * Delete - per my nomination. As an added comment, I disagree that the reference provided above is evidence of the novel's existence. If anything, it indicates that it is a work in progress ("DK: That’s just a working title. I’m still focused on getting the game out the door, so the novel’s going to have to wait a bit longer.") A non-issue as the book has not been published - nor has it been announced by a publisher. Again, WP:CRYSTAL. Victoriagirl 00:44, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep Here is proof of the second novel. It is an offical press release on the bioware site. The release confirms a second novel but it does not give a title. proof at bioware.com.  Also in the forums I remeber Drew Karpyshyn discussing the second novel, I'll try to find the thread. Socer1104 20:20, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment I've taken the liberty of repairing the link provided by Socer1104. Anyone caring to investigate will see that it features a 21 February 2007 press release announcing the acquisition of an untitled novel. What's more, the press release indicates that the novel had yet to be written ("We are thrilled to have Drew writing the book as he has the knowledge and skills to make a great novel."). Once again, this is all a moot point as Mass Effect: Revolution fails to meet the criteria called for in WP:BK: it has not been published, it has no ISBN, it is not available through any on-line bookstore, it has not "been the subject of multiple, non-trivial published works whose sources are independent of the book itself". Frankly, the fact that Wikipedia itself is being referenced in the link provided by lgfi as evidence of the book's existence (and title) speaks volumes as to why this sort of speculation has no place here. Victoriagirl 21:57, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment If it does not meet the wikipedia rules then maybe it should be deleted until a title or more information is releases from the author or publisher. It could also be renamed "Mass Effect 2nd novel" or something along those lines.  That way the knowledge of a forth coming second novel is shared but not miss interpreted as something it isn't. Socer1104 16:23, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete - the novel quite simply does not exist. Period.  Press releases only indicate that something is in the works and it may never see the light of day.  It has not been reported on by independent reliable sources and so isn't even notable for being greatly anticipated. -- Whpq 17:07, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
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