Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Massacres and Atrocities committed by Manchu rulers


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was that at the request of the only author of the page I am moving it into User:Arilang1234's user area for further development to resolve the issues raised on the article's talk page and here on the AfD. --PBS (talk) 09:37, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Massacres and Atrocities committed by Manchu rulers

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This page should be deleted because it clearly constitutes original research, more specifically a "Synthesis of published material which advances a position." The article bundles together a group of "massacres and atrocities" that no scholarly source that I know of has ever discussed together. Even the creator of this page admits (in the lead paragraph) that the wiki's main point (i.e., that the heavy population loss that China underwent between 1600 and 1650 was "probably the indirect result of many massacres and atrocities conducted by Manchu barbarians") represents "yet to be verified speculation." For further explanations, see the talk page. Madalibi (talk) 06:40, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
 * I am also nominating the following "redirect" pages because they are former names of the current page.
 * --Madalibi (talk) 06:53, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
 * --Madalibi (talk) 06:53, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
 * --Madalibi (talk) 06:53, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
 * --Madalibi (talk) 06:53, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
 * --Madalibi (talk) 06:53, 17 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of China-related deletion discussions.   —Madalibi (talk) 07:28, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
 * There's clear POV issues with the current version. Synthesising different facts to advance an opinion isn't allowed, but that doesn't really mean everything should be deleted. Surely there's events in there that scholarly sources do cover on their own that could be split out, right? - Mgm|(talk) 09:09, 17 December 2008 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.