Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Massimo Scolari


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was speedy keep. Withdrawn by nominator. (non-admin closure) Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 13:46, 5 November 2022 (UTC)

Massimo Scolari

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BLP with no references Rathfelder (talk) 08:39, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Architecture and Italy. Rathfelder (talk) 08:39, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People and Visual arts. North America1000 12:56, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
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 * Keep This article has survived since 2008 in this shape? Amazing. However, he is both notable and prominent, exhibited at MoMA, his art is publicly displayed, he was published by MIT Press and he most certainly has been the subject of 'significant coverage in independent secondary sources'. I'll omit the obligatory whine about WP:BEFORE, the article was a nasty little thing, but its subject most certainly deserves better. Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 09:29, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep but TNT. Agree with above, he's at GNG and ARTIST, but wow what a mess. Oaktree b (talk) 14:41, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep. The nomination should not have ignored the sentence "His works are in the permanent collections at the MoMA (New York), the Teheran Museum of Contemporary Art, the Deutsches Architektur Museum (Frankfurt), and the Centre Pompidou (Paris)", which makes an obvious case for WP:ARTIST notability and helps guide searches for sourcing that can verify those notability claims. For instance, searching "massimo scolari moma" immediately finds https://www.moma.org/artists/8125 which verifies the MoMA claim. —David Eppstein (talk) 15:50, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Fine. FINE. But the article was a mad 2008 throwback and should never have been allowed (by the Universe, clearly) to stay in that state for so long. I can't blame the nom for this one, honestly. BEFORE is a choice, not a burden and the article is a travesty. Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 16:12, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
 * I simply don't understand why established editors who have Wikipedia Library access don't just dump the quoted name into the WL search engine and see what comes out. In this case there are 299 hits, the first page of which look to be the right guy. I admit it's more difficult when the name is "John Smith", or the subject is Chinese, or Arabic, or Russian, but in this case there seems no excuse. Espresso Addict (talk) 19:33, 2 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Keep, I'll hold up my hands and admit I added the 'notability' template in 2014 ...and the article is still in poor shape, being largely taken word-for-word from Scolari's website. But I can see numerous articles about him and reviews of his books, in reputable architectural magazines. If indeed he has works in major art institutions like MOMA, that is more than adequate to pass WP:NARTIST. I'll have a look at imporving the article tonight. Sionk (talk) 16:26, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep per all the reasons above. Randy Kryn (talk) 12:26, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep, per above & WL search mentioned above. Espresso Addict (talk) 19:33, 2 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Happy to withdraw this now there are references. Rathfelder (talk) 19:29, 3 November 2022 (UTC)


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