Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mastan Ensemble


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The result was   keep. Tone 19:38, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

Mastan Ensemble

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No in-line references, no reason as to why the group is notable. Beeshoney (talk) 21:27, 18 August 2010 (UTC) Keep, and ought to be a speedy keep. The LA Times article, cited as an external link, but functionally a reference, is solid evidence of notability, and ignoring it is good reason to discount or ignore the prior !votes. Hullaballoo Wolfowitz (talk) 23:02, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Strong Delete - as this is English wikipedia, even if I could read Persian, there's not one note that is verified or cited which would mean this group passes WP:MUSIC. Rgds, --Trident13 (talk) 23:55, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
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 * Keep as the band is notable, I used one of the external links from Los Angeles Times as a source. Spada II ♪♫ (talk) 06:22, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Parvaz Homay, I think that the band is NOT notable.Farhikht (talk) 14:54, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment Just added the BBC Persian source. with respect to Farhikht (that I consider a well-exprienced editor) that's a enough evidence of notability. Homay is the frontman & the most important member but the other members like Pasha Hanjani took part in The Pulse of Persia (album) and other projects that makes the band notable. Spada II ♪♫ (talk) 17:30, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Very Strong Keep. The group IS notable, at the very least! This was the short response to User:Beeshoney's assertion. The longer response: those who know Persian music, those who know Rumi and his poetry, etc., will testify that Mastan Ensemble is the best of its kind and generation. Incidentally, the assertion by User:Beeshoney that there were "No in-line references" in the entry at issue contradicts facts on the ground --- one needs only to consult the entry and verify that there are in-line references aplenty. The Ensemble has received uniformly positive reviews wherever they have given live performance --- consult to External-links section of the entry (see e.g. this). Could I respectfully ask User:Beeshoney's expertise regarding Persian Music whereby to undertake such a drastic move as removing the entry at issue? Those who know Persian, can readily testify that Mastan Ensemble has almost perfected the art of Chāmeh Sarā'i (I have described this term in the main text of Mastan Ensemble); the poems accompanying the music of Mastan Ensemble are further of highest quality. One more thing: to my best judgement, the Ensemble has (1) the world's very best Tar player of his generation in the person of Azad Mirzapour (just watch this short piece -- the piece is played superbly; the tuning of the tar for this particular piece is extremely difficult and subtle; a slightly wrong tuning would kill what one calls Zakhmehs (tr: Strikes) in this music, and (2) the world's very best Kamancheh player of his generation in the person of Sina Jahanabadi (just listen to this piece). Already these two great musicians are sufficient proof for the greatness of Mastan Ensemble. --BF 03:37, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep Notability established with BBC source. VirtualRevolution (talk) 10:04, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
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