Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Matariki Whatarau


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. Pax:Vobiscum (talk) 09:24, 10 March 2020 (UTC)

Matariki Whatarau

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Doesn't seem to meet WP:GNG, WP:NACTOR, WP:MUSICBIO. From the coverage available in the article and elsewhere online, it seems that Modern Maori Quartet is likely notable, but it doesn't seem that Whatarau meets the criteria. If an article about the quarter is created, we could redirect this page to there, but until then deletion seems appropriate. signed,Rosguill talk 23:27, 20 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. signed,Rosguill talk 23:27, 20 February 2020 (UTC)
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 * Keep. Matariki has had an extensive acting career in New Zealand. Including Theatre, television, cabaret and film. I am able to provide more information about his career with verifiable sources. Sycofantic (talk) 03:35, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Request Would you mind declaring an conflict of interest you have with the articles you created?


 * From reading the article, I don't really see any major roles in notable works. Could you identify which movies/shows you think meet this criterion? signed,Rosguill talk 05:12, 21 February 2020 (UTC)

These roles are relevant in New Zealand, especially within the Māori community. The Māori have their own television network Māori Television on which Matariki has appeared. Marginalized people may have a larger notability in their own community than in the larger society. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sycofantic (talk • contribs) 18:43, 22 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep The Almighty Johnsons. (Jerome (Māui), Find Me a Maori Bride (2 series on Maori Television),  The Pa Boys (film) Lead character "Tau". He recently toured with Modern Māori Quartet:  Modern Maori Quartet: Two Worlds, a cabaret style theatre show.
 * Notability is measured by the amount of coverage available about the subjects, not just how "important" the subject is. Are there Maori community publications that you could bring to this discussion to back up the assertions that you're making? Also, please refrain from voting more than once. signed,Rosguill talk 18:49, 22 February 2020 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Needs analysis as to whether these television shows/films are actually notable.
 * Keep. Meets WP:NACTOR - he has had significant roles in multiple notable films and television shows. Paora (talk) 11:16, 25 February 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, buidhe 02:36, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete. This person (along with their roles) does not appear sufficiently notable.  (Also, user "Sycofantic" - who created and made almost all of the edits to this page - appears likely to have an undeclared conflict of interest, and this user's edits do not demonstrate a sufficiently non-neutral POV.) Rangatira80 (talk) 23:06, 5 March 2020 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.