Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Match wagon (disambiguation)


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The result was no consensus. Star  Mississippi  01:46, 15 July 2022 (UTC)

Match wagon (disambiguation)

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Disputed speedy (G14). Page disambiguates one article plus a section of another article (referring to match wagons), but there is dispute on the page history over whether the distinction is actually a difference. That should determine whether to delete/redirect; I am taking it here to resolve the speedy dispute and get outside opinions. Chroma Nebula  (talk)   21:07, 23 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep, a barrier vehicle and an idler flatcar are two quite different wagons each serving a different purpose. Peter Horn User talk 22:41, 23 June 2022 (UTC) Peter Horn User talk 01:33, 24 June 2022 (UTC) Peter Horn User talk 14:05, 24 June 2022 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 21:21, 30 June 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗  plicit  23:40, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Disambiguations-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 22:49, 23 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Redirect The dab lists match wagon and idler flatcar which leads to Idler flatcars are also used to mount one kind of coupler on one end and another kind on the other end. This is called a barrier vehicle or match wagon. The only real target is barrier vehicle, match wagon should just redirect there. MB 01:40, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete match wagon (disambiguation), redirect match wagon (already done). I had the same thought process as MB above.  As written, a "match wagon" is also known as a "barrier vehicle", which is a type of "idler flatcar". So saying that "match wagon" could be either is redundant. Hoof Hearted (talk) 12:25, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
 * No longer true. Peter Horn User talk 14:24, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * delete This seems to be stumbling quite a bit over NA/UK terminology disjunct, as "flatcar" is an NA term and "match wagon" is UK. Also, idler car (NA) isn't a type of car; it's a usage. Dedicated ones, one would imagine, are usually flatcars for various reasons, but they don't have to be: at Savage Mill they used whatever they had on hand to keep the locos off the ancient bridge, typically just other cars in the consist. It seems likely that an idler might also do coupler conversion, but they are still two different functions and I don't see the validity of this disambiguation. It would make sense to use hat notes in the respective articles instead, if necessary. Mangoe (talk) 00:12, 8 July 2022 (UTC)


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