Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mathias Färm

Each of these is a breakout from a relatively minor Swedish skate-punk band. I will add the information found in each of these individual articles to the band's article. At present, they're substubs unlikely to ever grow. The information will be preserved, but no indication that any band member has achieved individual fame. Geogre 14:25, 8 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Delete all: fancruft and/or vanity, no evidence of notability. Wile E. Heresiarch 19:21, 8 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Wile, while I agree with your general disdain for vanity and ephemeral pop culture in Wikipedia, you might want to do at least a tiny amount of checking before you say "no evidence of notability" or suggest that something might be vanity. A look at the Millencolin article should be a clue that this isn't a garage band. Isomorphic 07:04, 9 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Delete, possibly merging. --Ianb 22:06, 8 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Neutral. "Millencolin" gets 362,000 google hits, and I can vouch for the fact that they're a reasonably well-known group within the punk genre. However, I don't know anything about the individual members. Isomorphic 06:45, 9 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Comment: Isomorphic, no one is suggesting a delete of the Millecolin article. I'm planning, in fact, on taking all the information from these 4 breakouts and adding it all to the Millecolin article. I only nominated these 4 substub breakouts because they seem to be the work of someone a little overly zealous. Most of them say, "(birthday) plays guitar/drums/bass for Millecolin." One says, "designed the album covers." None of these individuals, as individuals, have sufficient notability, to me. Geogre 12:38, 9 Aug 2004 (UTC)

I understood. I just wanted to clarify that the band at least is notable. Considering what gets submitted to Wikipedia, calling a band "relatively minor" on VfD conjures up images of garage bands and local acts. Millencolin has an international fan base, and while these individuals probably don't need their own articles, it's certainly not vanity. Isomorphic 04:28, 10 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Keep - Millencolin is not a "relatively minor Swedish skate-punk band". It was the biggest Swedish skate-punk band at the time the skate-punk genre was popular. And Geogre, it is not "either or", you can still improve the Millencolin page even if there exists pages for the group memebers too. Eric B. and Rakim 17:07, 10 Aug 2004 (UTC) Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Votes_for_deletion/Mathias_F%E4rm"