Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Matsudaira Senchiyo


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The result was merge to Tokugawa Ieyasu. Vanamonde (Talk) 14:15, 5 September 2021 (UTC)

Matsudaira Senchiyo

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Bio of a child who died aged six and has no claim of notability other than being a son of Tokugawa Ieyasu. A previous redirect to that article was undone, but I think that was probably the best alternative to deletion. Mccapra (talk) 06:29, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. Mccapra (talk) 06:29, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Japan-related deletion discussions. Mccapra (talk) 06:29, 22 August 2021 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Merge with Tokugawa Ieyasu. no notability stand alone. Peter303x (talk) 21:13, 24 August 2021 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗  plicit  08:30, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Royalty and nobility-related deletion discussions. ☢️ Radioactive 🎃 (talk) 15:23, 29 August 2021 (UTC)


 * I agree with above, subject alone is not notable, yet it can be merged and redirected to mentioned article.-- Melaleuca alternifolia  |  talk  21:06, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of History-related deletion discussions. Curbon7 (talk) 18:13, 30 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Keep This is a historic figure so there is no WP:BLP concern. Member of a major noble ruling family and  heir of the great ruler Hiraiwa Chikayoshi, and he did stuff, as witnessed in our article. Noble politics and intrigue, but that does make him notable. Moreover his tomb is now a historical interest landmark in Japan,  and also featured in a Japanese newspaper as offline see . Thanks VocalIndia (talk) 17:23, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
 * I’m not sure what you mean. He didn’t “do stuff” because was a child of six. The newspaper articles you’ve found are for a different Matsudaira Senchiyo, more commonly known as Matsudaira Tadanao, who definitely did stuff and was notable. Both born in the same year but not the same individual. Mccapra (talk) 22:11, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Not at all, I'm not sure for offline paper because I can't read it. According to this entry (used machine translation), " A samurai figure from the Azuchi-Momoyama period.", "Senchiyo became the adopted son and heir of Shinkichi." and "If Senchiyo is a long-time life, it is unusual for his brother to become his brother's family elder, so there is a possibility that there was a change in the relationship between the Owari domain Isthon and the Ierohiraiwa family." It is showing that he is significant for Inuyama Domain even he was a child. VocalIndia (talk) 05:48, 1 September 2021 (UTC)
 * ok the link in your comment above is to the correct Senchiyo, but it’s to someone’s blog. Mccapra (talk) 06:57, 1 September 2021 (UTC)
 * and the quote you mention says that Senchiyo’s younger brother Tokugawa Yoshinao later became Lord of the very powerful Owari domain (notable), and that if Senchiyo had lived, he would possibly have been made Lord of Owari instead, because it would have been unusual for a younger son to be favoured over an older one. That is an interesting piece of “what if” by the blog author, but it isn’t a claim if notability. Mccapra (talk) 07:14, 1 September 2021 (UTC)


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