Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Matt Brookens


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The result was delete. TonyBallioni (talk) 01:48, 6 August 2018 (UTC)

Matt Brookens

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Non-notable aspiring filmmaker. No coverage in any reliable secondary sources. 4 references are dead links and the last is to the shorts he submitted to Funny or Die. Amsgearing (talk) 00:06, 14 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep - as article creator. The links, with one exception that I deleted, have been repaired, and include a feature write up in The State Journal-Register and note a Best Feature Comedy award at the Route 66 Film Festival. I have now added Brookens’ reasonably substantial IMDb resume as an external link, and a retrospective showing in Los Angeles of a Brookens film referenced at Columbia College Chicago. The article had not been expanded for some time, so I understand the nominator’s misunderstanding, given the links I have fixed, but this nomination is without merit. Jusdafax (talk) 01:35, 14 July 2018 (UTC)
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 * Comment Here's a quick rundown of the (admittedly creative) link padding that the creator has contributed:
 * A list of shorts that were screened at Columbia College Chicago in which his name is mentioned, no coverage of him.
 * An interview from 2004 on the indie film blog Film Threat.
 * The State Journal-Register blurb (not a feature, as claimed) which was entirely written by Brookens himself in 2008.
 * A list of the films at the 2008 Route 66 Film Festival in which his name is mentioned; again, no coverage.
 * A discussion of his film "Art of Pain" on a non-notable blog called "Culture Blues".
 * A link to ArtofPainMovie.com, self-published source.
 * A link to his one submission on Funny Or Die; primary source.
 * A repeat of the same State Journal-Register blurb.
 * That's it. Not one of them is a reliable secondary source that provides in-depth coverage of the subject, with the possible exception of the Film Threat interview from 2004, but if that's all there is, that's not lasting coverage, and he obviously falls far short of what's required in WP:GNG. Don't even look at WP:FILMMAKER because he doesn't even come close to any of the 4 requirements there. So, no, there is no "misunderstanding" on the nominator's part - this is a non-notable filmmaker without significant coverage in reliable sources. Sorry. Maybe someday, but certainly WP:TOOSOON at the moment. Amsgearing (talk) 18:11, 14 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment The " The State Journal-Register blurb" isn't credited (I think you may have mistaken the picture title for the author credit), but in any case I agree, it's not RS.96.127.242.226 (talk) 23:04, 27 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Well, what I meant was, it's obviously a boilerplate list of questions that was sent to Brookens, and his replies to those questions are 99% of the piece. Hence, he essentially wrote the piece himself. Amsgearing (talk) 17:25, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete: Clearly fails the WP:GNG and the WP:FILMMAKER. -- LACaliNYC ✉ 20:00, 15 July 2018 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 03:08, 21 July 2018 (UTC)
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 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete the only decent ref is the The State Journal-Register interview, and interviews are not RS.96.127.242.226 (talk) 23:04, 27 July 2018 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Lourdes  05:37, 29 July 2018 (UTC)
 * delete I see no significant coverage from independent & reliable sources. Best coverage is interview from local Springfield paper in "Getting to know local artists" section.Sandals1 (talk) 14:10, 1 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete - run of the mill upand coming film artist. Bearian (talk) 00:58, 3 August 2018 (UTC)


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