Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Matthew Skaggs


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. / ƒETCH COMMS  /  03:43, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

Matthew Skaggs

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Unable to find significant coverage in reliable sources independent of the subject of this BLP. The article was recently PRODed with the following rationale "WP:V, WP:N Can't find any reliable, secondary sources (please see WP:RS) that provide coverage of this musician, artist, DJ, etc. to establish notability under WP:GNG, and no claim of notability is made under WP:MUSICBIO." Sources have been added and the prod was removed. My contention is that the sources are not reliable nor sufficient to establish notability. The sources are a wikimirror, discogs, and a site apparently hosted by the artist. J04n(talk page) 10:51, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 12:57, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete: I do very much appreciate the editor who made a serious attempt to add sources here, but the three added don't entirely address the concerns that led to my proposed deletion. (I also appreciate that for new editors, figuring out what we do and don't consider reliable can be frustrating.) Citation 1 is from discogs, whose encyclopedia is not considered reliable in the last RSN discussion I could find, likely because it makes use of unverified, user-created content.  Citation 3 from answers.com, essentially cut and paste's the portion of the Wikipedia article on this chap, and suffers from the same problem.  Cite 2, from Kill Hannah is more interesting.  It's not from Matt himself, but with a group he's worked for, this is somewhere on the scale between true-primary and true-secondary sources if he's been hired by them, and they do actually talk about his gear some.  I don't consider it reliable enough, but even I did it still wouldn't rise to the minimum of two reliable secondary sources providing in-depth coverage of the artist required by WP:GNG  I don't see a claim of notability under WP:MUSICBIO either.  Coverage from newspapers, print magazines, etc. if available would absolutely help here.  --joe deckertalk to me 15:58, 30 March 2011 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Regards, MacMedtalk stalk 12:30, 7 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Acather96 (talk) 10:23, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Delete The references listed are not sufficient to support notability. Wikipedian2 (talk) 16:32, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
 * I checked a library database of newspaper and magazine articles for all of his aliases, but did not find any sources that would help to support WP:N notability. Paul Erik  (talk) (contribs) 03:05, 21 April 2011 (UTC)
 * additional facts and references added per comments. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.51.196.70 (talk) 06:42, 21 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete: I'm not seeing any sources of the type that could support an article. The only newspaper mention of him that I found was in a relative's obit. -MrFizyx (talk) 19:12, 22 April 2011 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.