Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Matvei Igonen


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The result was   delete.  Wifione  Message 04:30, 12 November 2013 (UTC)

Matvei Igonen

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Contested PROD. Concern was Article about a footballer who fails WP:GNG and who has not played in a fully pro league. PROD was contested based on a misinterpretation of point 1 (national teams) of WP:NFOOTBALL. This point refers to the highest of level football internationally, which the Meistriiliga certainly is not. Sir Sputnik (talk) 05:04, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment Assuming no other evidence of notability shows up, this decision should be either an obvious keep or obvious delete based on the historical interpretation of WP:NFOOTY, particularly its interpretation in recent Wiki-history. I do not know what that interpretation is, but the good folks at WikiProject Football probably do.  davidwr/  (talk)/(contribs)  06:16, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions. Northamerica1000(talk) 08:53, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
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 * Delete - Per nom, Estonian top league is not fully professional and youth international appearances are, by consensus, not sufficient to fulfill NFOOTY requirement of international appearances, these need to be senior. Fenix down (talk) 15:15, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete - fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. GiantSnowman 18:35, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep: As I stated on the talk page...
 * Players, managers and referees who have represented their country in any FIFA sanctioned senior international match (including the Olympics) are notable as they have achieved the status of participating at the highest level of football.
 * Matvei Igonen (born 2 October 1996) is a Estonian football player, currently playing for FC Infonet in the Estonian first division Meistriliiga.
 * Meistriliiga (called the A. Le Coq Premium liiga from 2013 for sponsorship reasons) is the highest division of the Estonian Football Association annual football championship.

To sum it up, he has played for Meistriliiga, which is the highest division and satisfies the requirement as playing for the highest level in his area. NFOOTY does not say the team has to be fully professional although players in a fully professional league, will generally be regarded as notable. Technical 13 (talk) 23:57, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete - For your information Technical 13, Meistriliiga is not a fully pro league so the player fails WP:NFOOTBALL. More importantly he hasn't received significant coverage so he fails WP:GNG. – Michael (talk) 00:48, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete, fails WP:NFOOTBALL as pointed out in the original PROD.--eh bien mon prince (talk) 00:24, 8 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete - The Meistriliiga isn't a fully pro league, and since the player in question hasn't represented his country at senior level either, he fails WP:NFOOTY. Also fails WP:GNG, as he hasn't received significant coverage in reliable sources. Mentoz86 (talk) 15:00, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
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