Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Max Grün


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The result was   keep all as they pass WP:ATHLETE. пﮟოьεԻ  5  7  23:50, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

Max Grün

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Delete - fails WP:Athlete as never having played in a fully professional league. Contested Prod. This is a multiple nomination also for Alexander Benede, Marco Höferth, Marco Stier, and Stefan Rieß. TerriersFan (talk) 15:42, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep - they have all played in the 3. Liga, which is a fully professional national league. . ArtVandelay13 (talk) 15:55, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
 * This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football related deletions. ArtVandelay13 (talk) 15:58, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep - 3rd Liga is fully pro. Hubschrauber729 (talk) 17:21, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep - 3rd Liga is fully pro. Kingjeff (talk) 22:04, 26 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete lack of non-trivial reliable independent sources. The guideline for inclusion of sports people is only a guideline showing the kinds of people who will attract the kind of coverage which allows us to have a policy-compliant article.  No WP:BLP complies with policy unless it is rigorously sourced from non-trivial reliable independent sources.  Simply playing a few games in a low league is not an exemption to the fundamental policies of WP:V, WP:NPOV and WP:BLP, which require that we can verify not only the content but its neutrality and significance.  Wikipedia is not a directory of footballers, after all.  Consider merging those of no obvious independent significance into a list of minor / reserve players for the club, or maybe start a Wikia where sourcing is less of a problem. Guy (Help!) 22:16, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment - seems well sourced to me Nfitz (talk) 05:12, 27 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep - plays on fully pro league. Easily verifiable. Nfitz (talk) 05:12, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep - appears to meet WP:ATHLETE guidelines. GiantSnowman 12:41, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Living people-related deletion discussions. --Erwin85Bot (talk) 14:10, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep - has played in fully pro league Quentin X (talk) 23:07, 28 August 2008 (UTC)


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