Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Max Lipset


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The result was   delete. Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:05, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

Max Lipset

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PROD contested by with the explanation "He has played in the US Open Cup which is the top cup competition in the United States". He indeed played a match in the Lamar Hunt U.S. Open Cup in 2010, but this came against a side not from a fully professional league. KC Athletics competed in the United States Adult Soccer Association at the time of the match, which is not a FPL. As such, the subject fails the criteria at WP:NFOOTBALL. Also fails WP:GNG. Mattythewhite (talk) 14:07, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

Keep: He has played in the US Open Cup which is professional. He played for a professional team, in a professional match. Sure it was amateur vs professional in this match but the cup is pro and thus he should be notable. --Arsenalkid700 (talk) 20:53, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
 * But it's not a wholly professional tournament, as it admits teams that are not from FPLs, like KC Athletics. He indeed played for a professional team, but it's incorrect to say it was a professional match as one team was not fully professional.  I still don't see how the subject passes criterion 2 of WP:NFOOTBALL, that "Players who have appeared, and managers who have managed, in a fully professional league, will generally be regarded as notable". Mattythewhite (talk) 03:12, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. GiantSnowman 12:20, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete - fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. 90 minutes in a cup match against an ameteur team does not instill confidence in notability. GiantSnowman 12:25, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
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 * Delete per WP:FOOTYN, as he played in a cup competition against an amateur team. By the way, fully professional competitions don't feature amateur teams. – Kosm  1  fent  10:11, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete - fails WP:NFOOTY. Playing a cup-match against an amateur team doesn't make you notable. Mentoz86 (talk) 18:58, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete - per nom. As already stated by others, playing a cup fixture against an amateur team is insufficient to pass WP:NSPORT. Beyond the one cup match, Mr. Lipset has not played in a fully pro league, and has not received significant coverage, thus failing WP:GNG as well. Sir Sputnik (talk) 19:38, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
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