Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Maxim Alachev


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   Delete all, except Ghenadie Ochincă which is kept. ItsZippy (talk • contributions) 15:25, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

Maxim Alachev

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Contested PROD. Concern was Article about a footballer who fails WP:GNG and who has not played in a fully pro league. PROD was contested on the grounds that the Moldovan National Division isn't listed at WP:FPL. Since notability requires verifiable evidence, playing in that league cannot be used as grounds for notability without reliable sources confirming it as fully pro. Sir Sputnik (talk) 11:09, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

I am also nominating the following articles for the same reason. Sir Sputnik (talk) 11:11, 14 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Sir Sputnik (talk) 11:11, 14 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete all - fail WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. GiantSnowman 11:37, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep Ochincă. Sourced information already in the article (and confirmed at romaniansoccer.ro) verifies his appearance for Gloria Buzau in the Romanian top flight, which is listed at WP:FPL as fully professional. I'm aware it's only a single appearance, but it's enough to pass WP:NFOOTBALL. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 12:12, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete all (except Ochincă) - none of these articles pass the general notability guideline, and the Ochincă article has been around for years with just one superficial source even if he's made a single appearance in a fully-pro league. That's not enough to pass NFOOTBALL without more evidence of potential GNG-compliance. However, thanks to Struway2's efforts, the Ochincă article has expanded enough to lead me to believe it could pass the GNG in the future - well done. Jogurney (talk) 12:56, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete all – also about Ochincă, barely passing WP:NFOOTY is no free pass unless WP:GNG is met or proven that can be met. – Kosm  1  fent  14:00, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. 14:28, 15 August 2012 (UTC)  • Gene93k (talk) 14:28, 15 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Comment. I've expanded Ghenadie Ochincă a bit, but unfortunately my ignorance of the Romanian language means I've had to omit possibly productive sources where the results of Google translate weren't absolutely clear. Perhaps those who doubt its potential to meet GNG might consider revisiting? I'd agree it probably doesn't meet it yet. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 17:03, 16 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep Ghenadie Ochincă - As nominator. Given that the article meets WP:NSPORT, I think Sturway's expantions are more than sufficient. Sir Sputnik (talk) 21:36, 16 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  TheSpecialUser TSU 01:43, 21 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete all except Ochinca as he's the only one to pass WP:NFOOTY and can be expanded to pass WP:GNG Seasider91 (talk) 14:00, 21 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep Ochincă, Delete the rest per the nominator and Struway2. Mentoz86 (talk) 02:59, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete as per the nomination.--Juristicweb (talk) 23:39, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep Ochincă, Delete the rest - Ochincă has detailed references and is not similarly situated as the other nominated articles, which lack references in the article. Ochincă should have its own, separate AfD if there is a need. As for the other articles, I didn't find any English references on Maxim Alachev or Serghei Juric. I didn't find any English references for Joel Kiki or Joel Nyobu. While there may be reliable sources in non-English publications, I would need to see some first before concluding they meet WP:GNG. -- Uzma Gamal (talk) 12:23, 29 August 2012 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.