Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Maximilian Pupp


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The result was delete. Spartaz Humbug! 15:07, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

Maximilian Pupp

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Skiing doesn't have an SNG to use as a rough guide to notability, so we have to go by WP:GNG, per WP:SPORTCRIT. I have done a reasonably thorough BEFORE search (for an English speaker), and I have found no in-depth sources about the subject. There were only trivial mentions and listings on sports statistics pages. As the subject is now retired, it is unlikely that any further in-depth sources will emerge. Per SPORTCRIT, Trivial coverage of a subject by secondary sources...is not sufficient to establish notability; we cannot maintain this article on the basis of stat pages. &spades;PMC&spades; (talk) 21:42, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. &spades;PMC&spades; (talk) 21:42, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Germany-related deletion discussions. &spades;PMC&spades; (talk) 21:42, 29 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep, World Cup competitor on a fairly high level (top 25 in the world on occasion). A German-language source search would surely turn up more. Geschichte (talk) 13:10, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
 * I actually did search with Google switched to pulling German-language results, and I simply found no in-depth content about him. Everything I found was just stat pages and result reports that included a single sentence along the lines of "Maximilian Pupp did XYZ" with no elaboration. The best source I found was this short piece in Münchner Merkur, which is basically a fluff piece about COVID19 affecting skiing, with some quotes from Pupp. It's still not content about him or his career. There's no content that gets us past SPORTCRIT, which requires more than just stat pages, no matter what his performance level was. &spades;PMC&spades; (talk) 18:59, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
 * His career was over a decade ago, many sources would have been lost from the internet, or not online in the first place. Geschichte (talk) 23:23, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
 * We do not keep articles because people claim there are sources, we keep articles because people identify specific sources that justify the claims to notability.John Pack Lambert (talk) 14:49, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete not enough sourcing to justify this article.John Pack Lambert (talk) 14:48, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete - I have also looked into this one before, and have similarly been unable to find any real coverage on this athlete outside of basic stat pages. From what I can tell, it does not appear that the German Wikipedia has an article on this individual as well, so I was unable to gain any further sources or information there, either.  Unless valid sources that would allow this individual to pass the WP:GNG can actually be located, the article cannot be kept.  Rorshacma (talk) 16:45, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep. He may have retired as a skier but he's still a coach and a Google news search brings up references quickly. I'll take a stab at it. Ifnord (talk) 17:32, 6 June 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Black Kite (talk) 22:55, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete No Olympic appearances and no top 20 finishes in FIS or World Cup events. Highest FIS ranking ever was 69th  in ski cross.  My search, in English, found no significant independent coverage that would meet WP:GNG--mainly listings in databases.  He's not listed at the German wikipedia among skicross racers  so it's hard to claim there's much significant coverage of him.  Being an assistance coach at the Olympics isn't enough to show WP notability.


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