Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Maxwell Show


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   merged and redirect (already done) - Nabla (talk) 22:24, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Maxwell Show
✅ Selective merge of material into the WMMS article, per WP:BOLD. --InDeBiz1 (talk) 00:48, 6 May 2008 (UTC)


 * ( [ delete] ) – (View AfD) (View log)

Delete - Page should be deleted due to lack of sources and notability. At the very least this page should be merged into its radio home page, WMMS (FM). Page also not written in an encyclopedic tone. GoHuskies9904 (talk) 20:34, 2 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Strong keep. This is notable. It was already recently nominated for deletion very recently and was kept.--Josh (talk) 21:06, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Wasn't brought up before. Look at page discussion. -GoHuskies9904 (talk) 21:08, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't know that it is contrary to any policy per se, but it seems silly to come to AfD when there is a merger discussion underway on the talk page. Anyway, since it is here, Merge/Redirect to WMMS (FM). That it is not well written is a cleanup issue not relevant at AfD. Beeblbrox (talk) 21:21, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Merge discussion is underway, hardly. It has been stalled for months. I put the tag back up because a user who is very close to the subject matter keeps deleting it. And Beeb, there are two main reasons why its here. Notability and lack of sources. Being poorly written was another comment.-GoHuskies9904 (talk) 21:24, 2 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Merge/Weak Keep- I think SportsMaster has put in quality time on this article and has greatly improved it from where it was a couple months ago. However, I think merging is the best option here because it isn't a show like Imus, Sean Hannity or something that deserves its own page. But if the option is here is to keep or delete, I would say it should stay, because it is a somewhat notable show in a fairly big market in Cleveland. But merging is the best option. -UWMSports (talk) 21:48, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment Before anyone quotes WP:AGF to me, i'd ask them to check the contribs. I'm concerned about this nomination.  Timeline.  Nom is in a content dispite with SportsMaster. Then not only does this article authored by SportsMaster get afd'd, but an attempt is made on another article authored by the same user (removed due to inability to get a 3rd nom to work) .  Maybe this article belongs, maybe it doesn't, but this just seems like a bad faith nom.--Cube lurker (talk) 22:45, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Hardly a bad faith nomination. I'm concerned with SportsMaster adding new pages just for his contrib count. Maxwell and Yahoo! Fantasy Sports are two articles that have been made and not been upgraded to wiki standards. No effort to improve these pages have been made. Look at his user page User:SportsMaster. He clearly is only concerned with creating articles. He has a count. It is not about improving current articles he has made. Isn't improvement what wiki should be about. -GoHuskies9904 (talk) 22:58, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Either way, we are here at AfD to discuss the merits of this article, not the nominator or the article creator. Please everyone limit your comments to the topic under debate. Beeblbrox (talk) 23:02, 2 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Merge or SMerge to radio station article. There just isn't enough out there to support an article, but it certainly has a place within the context of the radio station. It's not as though the station's article is bursting with so much content that this can't be fitted in. Erechtheus (talk) 19:15, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
 * It is also worth noting that Mike Trivisano has his own article. Maxwell does not, yet Maxwells show consistently gets higher ratings then his show, and Maxwell is number one in Cleveland afternoon drive.--Josh (talk) 22:14, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment We aren't basing this on popularity of shows. We're basing it on Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, which would involve verifiable information from reliable neutral sources. Is there more to be said about Maxwell Show? If so, perhaps it should be written in the article and backed up with references before this closes. Erechtheus (talk) 22:38, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Josh, WP:OTHERSTUFF... -GoHuskies9904 (talk) 03:38, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
 * BTW, direct me to Mike Trivisano... don't see a page for him. -GoHuskies9904 (talk) 04:39, 4 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Radio-related deletion discussions.   -- Fabrictramp (talk) 16:31, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I think you need to actually READ the article. He is linked in the article itself.--Josh (talk) 18:01, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I apologize, his name was spelled wrong in your comment so it gave me a blank page. But that is still other crap exists. -GoHuskies9904 (talk) 20:38, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I think we are close to putting a bow-tie on this discussion and declaring merge the consensus. -GoHuskies9904 (talk) 19:55, 4 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Comment. If you want to merge this then just go ahead and do it. There's no need to come to AfD first. Phil Bridger (talk) 20:18, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment I am not an admin. Plus, everyone should be heard instead of me merging it then it being reverted back. That does no goof. -GoHuskies9904 (talk) 20:38, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
 * You don't need to be an admin to merge, and if you get reverted back then the thing to do is to discuss it on the talk page. Again, AfD is not the forum for discussing merges. Phil Bridger (talk) 21:22, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Selective merge performed.   --InDeBiz1 (talk) 00:48, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Philly Boy, was brought here for deletion. Merging was the compromise. So don't patronize me by saying I shouldn't have brought it here. I've seen merge discussions stall for months. You want things to happen for the better good, sometimes you got to stir the pot a little. Jack Bauer didn't do things exactly by the book. Thanks! -GoHuskies9904 (talk) 02:03, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
 * WP:CIVIL Beeblbrox (talk) 03:52, 6 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Being civil, didn't curse or threaten. Just defending my AfD. The civility card should be pulled out when the discussion turns from whether you think the page should be kept or not to attacking my motives. Thanks. -GoHuskies9904 (talk) 14:19, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Incivility can take many forms, including a childish mockery of another users name. Beeblbrox (talk) 03:31, 7 May 2008 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.