Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/May 2016 Dürümlü bombing


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. "The sources are Turkish" is not a valid argument. Drmies (talk) 03:31, 17 November 2019 (UTC)

May 2016 Dürümlü bombing

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AfD opened on behalf of an IP, who claims that the sources are POV and the truth is unverified. As they appear to have been blocked, see my talkpage for the rationale. I am neutral, but there's no harm in discussion. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:38, 30 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Turkey-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 13:41, 30 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Military-related deletion discussions. Necrothesp (talk) 13:45, 30 October 2019 (UTC)
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 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, RL0919 (talk) 15:38, 6 November 2019 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Comment reserving judgment until I can do more research. This might be WP:NOTNEWS Lightburst (talk) 02:03, 10 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep. Passes WP:SIGCOV. The article reports the facts. I suppose NPOV could be argued as 'one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter', but the event is notable and meets the criteria at WP:GNG. Any NPOV concerns can be addressed on the article's talk page (although personally I see no problem with the article as written).4meter4 (talk) 08:34, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, – filelakeshoe (t / c) 🐱 09:27, 14 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep - Not sure this should have been brought to AFD - the sourcing is there, the IP editor may not have believed it but that's a different thing. FOARP (talk) 10:44, 14 November 2019 (UTC)
 * If an editor believes that strongly that an article should not be here there's no harm in discussing it. -- Necrothesp (talk) 11:13, 14 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Sure, but there's 40-50 AFDs a day and many go weakly attended, and it's not great to have an AFD which even the nom isn't convinced should have been brought. FOARP (talk) 12:39, 14 November 2019 (UTC)
 * In my honest opinion, if an admin is approached by an inexperienced editor who expresses concerns about an article that appear to be reasonable then it is our responsibility to address those concerns. Otherwise what are we here for? -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:49, 14 November 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep Notable bombing stub. No POV issues or a reason to delete. KasimMejia (talk) 14:23, 14 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete All the sources are Turkish. Turkey has no journalistic freedom (see Censorship_in_Turkey and Media_of_Turkey), with the media being well known for having a deep anti-Kurdish bias and making blatantly false statements. (again, see Media_of_Turkey. This is repeatedly confirmed there, if confirmation was needed). Hence none of those sources can be regarded as WP:RS, especially in regards these matters. There is also one Kurdish source used, but the article states that the source says the exact opposite of what the source actually says. As for notability... Why is it notable? If it was, as the Kurdish source (which is used to confirm the exact opposite of what it states) is to be trusted (though it is, to be fair, also biased. In the other direction), then this was not a bombing, but an accidental explosion. Why would that be notable? (also, I'd say that WP:NOTNEWS, which Lightburst mentioned [thanks for mentioning that], should apply). Also, how is this not just baseless accusations, against the PKK? Aren't attack articles, against living people, against the rules?--213.113.121.42 (talk) 03:19, 17 November 2019 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.