Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/May 8th 2012 Terror Plot


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   no consensus. No consensus a this time about the issue of lasting importance.  Sandstein  16:20, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

May 8th 2012 Terror Plot

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There is an article on the front page of the BBC cite that talks about the Yemeni terrorist carrying explosives in his pants and the CIA, but its referring to the 2009 attack not something that happened on 8/may/2012 Sarahj2107 (talk) 02:05, 9 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete. The BBC article seems to be about a recent plot similar to the 2009 attack, that was foiled by a CIA agent. Regardless, Wikipedia is not a newspaper. --- DoctorKubla (talk) 06:15, 9 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete. I second the above line of reasoning. The Mysterious El Willstro (talk) 08:01, 9 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment Doesn't seem notable at this stage but maybe could be merged to an earlier article on underpant-based terrorism? Or on Yemeni terrorism in general? --Colapeninsula (talk) 08:59, 9 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of News-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 16:23, 9 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Terrorism-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 16:24, 9 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Crime-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 16:24, 9 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Question. Does Wikipedia currently have an article about the notable terror plot?-- brew crewer  (yada, yada) 18:01, 9 May 2012 (UTC)
 * There are 2 articles related to the bombing, Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab about the perpetrator and Northwest Airlines Flight 253 about the airline service that he tried to bomb, but not an actual article on the bombing attempt itself. This seems odd to me, as neither the bomber nor the flight is really notable otherwise. --Colapeninsula (talk) 10:16, 10 May 2012 (UTC)
 * I may agree, but that's one plot in the past. I am referring to the recent news event concerning the double agent and underwear bomb that never actually materialized.-- brew  crewer  (yada, yada) 13:51, 10 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Incubate. Although WP:NOTNEWS and recentism apply, this story is garnering international attention currently. What remains to be seen is how much and for how long. - Jorgath (talk) (contribs) 20:15, 9 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep. A terrorst plot that has recived a worldwide covarage.The plot is a revange for the death of Bin Laden.User:Lucifero4
 * Keep, but rename -- in the last few days a lot of details about this plot have emerged.
 * The bomber was a mole from Saudi Arabia;
 * The bomb-maker was Ibrahim al-Asiri, who sent his brother to assassinate the Saudi Minister of the Interior with a bomb up his ass.
 * The recent killing by a missile armed drone of Fahd al Quso was tied to the return of the mole to his handlers.
 * Someone -- possibily Representative Peter King, blew operational security, ruined useufulness of the mole, and put him and his family at risk of retaliation, by revealing the existence of the counter-plot before counter-terrorism officials were ready.
 * Some reports say the bomb-maker was one of three trained and kitted out at the same time, and the two bombers who were not moles remain at large.
 * Sorry. I don't have the time to rescue this article myself.  Nevertheless, it is definitely an article on an important topic.
 * Can't everything that is worth covering be shoehorned into some existing article? Definitely not, as Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula, Ibrahim al-Asiri, Fahd al-Quso all need to point to the article on the plot, and that just won't work if the details are tucked into an article on a different topic.
 * Why rename? Well, first, the news didn't break when it occurred.  Counter-security officials were able to arrange for a delay in breaking the news.  Second, I suggest the role of the un-named mole is more important than the plot  Geo Swan (talk) 21:41, 10 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep and rename - per Geo swan.--BabbaQ (talk) 09:01, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Alternate names? I made some changes to the article, including adding a civilian attack infobox. In that infobox I suggested a name for the attack -- "Mole penetration of AQAP incident of 2012".  I am not aware of a name capturing public imagination -- as "underwear bomber" did with the original Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab "underwear bomb" incident.  If a nickname emerges that is probably what this article should be named.  I have no ego attachment to the alternate name I suggested.  Geo Swan (talk) 21:22, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Fully agree with the rename as well. The current name appears to be incorrect because May 8 was the date the plot was publicized, not the date the bombing was supposed to take place.-- brew crewer  (yada, yada) 15:49, 18 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   05:01, 17 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep. Its now clear, through multiple and continuous sources, that this event has long term notability and meets our relevant inclusion criteria.-- brew crewer  (yada, yada) 14:28, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
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