Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mazraeh-ye Tahqiqati Tutun


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The result was delete all except Mazraeh-ye Jonubi Rural District and Mazraeh-ye Shomali Rural District. Liz Read! Talk! 06:49, 21 August 2022 (UTC)

Mazraeh-ye Tahqiqati Tutun

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Fails WP:GEOLAND#1, WP:CORP, and WP:GNG. Name means literally "Tobacco research farm" according to machine translation. As such this is a business or other such WP:ORG, however nothing even close to a notability pass for a business or other organisation is present. GEOnet Names Server is an unreliable source. The Iranian census counts people according to a local reference point, in this case a farm/research centre, meaning that this is not a legally-recognised populated place as such. The co-ordinates provided in the article (the source of which is not known) point to a random field on the outskirts of Urmia.

Together with this article I am also nominating the following articles, all of which are Iranian "village" articles apparently created by Carlossuarez46, all of which include the words Mazraeh-ye, which apparently means "the farm of". These all appear to be potentially farms, often ones belonging to someone identified by name or to a numbered location, and as such are unlikely to be real villages. In some cases Carlossuarez46 appears to have realised that this is what they actually were and then redirected them to names that they made up by removing the "Mazraeh-ye" part of the name, but this hardly made things better. In a lot of cases, the articles have co-ordinates added to them apparently based on GEOnet Names Server data or GeoNames data, both of which are unreliable. WP:BEFORE sampling even of the more promising of these articles (e.g., Dashtok-e Olya, Yazd) failed to turn up any significant coverage needed for a WP:GNG pass or evidence of legal recognition such as is needed for a WP:GEOLAND#1 pass. Bundling is justified per WP:BUNDLE as these are spam/hoax articles created by the same author according to the same template.

Now that I've got AWB approval I plan to template all the articles in the list, but it may take me a day or two to do it so please have patience.

PS- you might think that 130 articles is a lot, but please remember that Carlossuarez46 was creating these articles at a rate of up to 100 or more per day so in reality this is still only dealing with their articles at a fraction of the rate they were created at. Deletion has to keep pace with mass-creation, otherwise we are allowing mass-creators to establish a fait accompli. Similarly WP:BEFORE as to be proportionate to the original work that was done to confirm the notability of the article that was created, which in this case was zero, otherwise again we are simply permitting a fait-accompli. FOARP (talk) 14:38, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Business, Geography,  and Iran. FOARP (talk) 14:38, 14 August 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete per WP:V we should not have an article on a subject unless we have third-party reliable sources about it, and the burden of proof is on those seeking to retain the content. The Iranian census is not a reliable source for the existence of these places, as explained by the nominator, and none of the ones I looked at cited any source other than the GEOnet Names Server (which is also unreliable for the existence of places).  Hut 8.5  17:55, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete all of the unverifiable geostubs created by this editor. Mccapra (talk) 21:01, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete all per established precedent, except Mazraeh-ye Jonubi Rural District and Mazraeh-ye Shomali Rural District which are dehestans (rural districts) and may meet WP:NGEO as the equivalent of a township. Rural districts should be assessed separately if it is suspected that they fail GNG. –LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄ ) 02:42, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks LP, will strike those from the list. BTW - "Mazraeh-ye Jonubi" just means "Southern farm" and "Mazraeh-ye Shomali" means "Northern farm", but they are listed in the census (after a lot of looking) as Dehestans, though whether a Dehestan is not also just a creation of the Iranian census is an open question. A WP:Before of both of them turned up nothing, but that’s probably not a surprise given their generic names. FOARP (talk) 07:00, 15 August 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete all except the two districts which should be renominated separately if sourcing is not readily found. –dlthewave ☎ 04:28, 16 August 2022 (UTC)


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