Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/McDonald's Menu Song


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was  Merge to McDonald's advertising (non-admin closure). Finalnight (talk) 15:28, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

McDonald's Menu Song

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Non-notable promotional campaign from the 1970. The article has no citations (originally noted in September 2007), and is primarily a collection of the lyrics. Also, the external link is a spam link. Jeremy ( Blah blah... ) 08:15, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak Keep. Without getting into the notability, a couple of corrections:
 * The campaign is from the late 80s. The song from the 70s is different.
 * The external link is clearly not spam.
 * It is not "primarily" a collection of lyrics. More than half of the article is intro/background prose.
 * Lack of citations is not a criterion for deletion. But I've added one for the lyrics anyway. It was easy to find, and I'm sure there are more (but it's 2:00am where I am and I'm going to sleep).
 * The content is certainly verifiable. Whether it's notable or not is, of course, open to debate. As the original author (some years ago) I think I'd still say it is. I wouldn't cry if it was deleted, but I have yet to see a good argument against it. Kafziel Complaint Department 09:03, 25 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete or Merge to List of McDonald's TV campaigns and slogans. It's not notable enough by itself. Wasn't this deleted and merged once already?Yobmod (talk) 10:59, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment - yes, it was. The article List of McDonald's TV campaigns and slogans is now McDonald's advertising.
 * No, it wasn't. It was changed to a redirect, but was never deleted through process. Kafziel Complaint Department 16:13, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep With a picture of the promotional vynil record added to the article, it would look a lot better. And there is a source outside the McDonalds coporation. --Firefly322 (talk) 12:03, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete (or merge): per WP:NOTE (lack of "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject") and WP:NOT. HrafnTalkStalk 13:07, 25 June 2008 (UTC) [preference is for delete, but merge is preferable to keeping) HrafnTalkStalk 17:01, 25 June 2008 (UTC) ]
 * For closing admin: Just a note: Over the past few days, User:Hrafn and I have been working "together" over on Relationship between science and religion. Our working relationship has been somewhat contentious and this !vote may in a WP:POINT in response to my keep !vote above. --Firefly322 (talk) 17:50, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
 * It is hardly unusual to follow a user-contributions page to see what an editor you've had dealings with (whether friendly or acrimonious) has been editing on recently. In this case, commenting on only one out of the four AfDs that Firefly322 has recently commented upon (the others being Articles for deletion/Cats and Dogs (game), Articles for deletion/Branner Hall & Articles for deletion/Sr Rajarajeswari Peetam) can hardly be considered to be some form of WP:POINTy reflexive opposition. I would suggest that some WP:AGF would be in order. HrafnTalkStalk 18:48, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Not so at all. See WP:TROLL. So please stop it. --Firefly322 (talk) 09:04, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Merge - the song recieved coverage, but nothing so significant, that it can't be included in McDonald's advertising --T-rex 16:57, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Merge to McDonald's advertising. Good content, but doesn't need its own article.  Could be convinced to change my vote to keep if only my copy of the record managed to get to the end of the song. -Verdatum (talk) 21:33, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Business-related deletion discussions.   --  Fabrictramp  |  talk to me  22:23, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Advertising-related deletion discussions.   --  Fabrictramp  |  talk to me  22:23, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Noticeably the article at the time of writing this comment has undegone radical editing from that at the time of nomination. -- Simon Cursitor (talk) 09:40, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, but the main changes have been to (i) insert a fairly lightweight source (Do You Remember TV? The Book That Takes You Back) and remove the lyrics. I don't think that this materially affects establishing the notability of the topic. HrafnTalkStalk 10:16, 26 June 2008 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.