Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/McEvedy Shield


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The result was delete.  Sandstein  09:54, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

McEvedy Shield

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Non notable high school competition between local schools not even nationwide. Coverage is all pretty much either WP:ROUTINE or from non reliable sources (weeby). Doesn't meet WP:GNG, WP:YOUNGATH, WP:NSPORTSEVENT. NZFC (talk) (cont)  09:02, 26 March 2019 (UTC)  NZFC  (talk) (cont)  09:02, 26 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. Sheldybett (talk) 09:08, 26 March 2019 (UTC)
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 * Keep. Significant coverage under general notability . (Dushan Jugum (talk) 16:41, 30 March 2019 (UTC)).
 * The problem with the references are that they are all from the Dominion Post, a Wellington newpaper. As much as I would like to support you I can not find references outside the Region. The mentions in other papers outside the region related to the graffiti incident several years ago or to specific atheletes backgrounds. NealeFamily (talk) 04:43, 1 April 2019 (UTC)
 * This was why I didn't think it meets WP:GNG either because of course you would expect a local paper, which Stuff/Dominion post is, to cover local school events. It isn't even a national wide important event as you also say, it only made papers outside Wellington because of silly behaviour. Otherwise it won't be reported outside Wellington generally again. NZFC  (talk) (cont)  05:10, 1 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi, NealeFamily. No contest to the Shield being of mostly regional notability and some events having happened in the past. Do these prevent it reaching general notability? (Dushan Jugum (talk) 05:17, 1 April 2019 (UTC)).


 * Keep. Not only are there several reliable references, but this page is linked to from (the pages of) several of the schools involved. And why does it matter that the references are only from Wellington newspaper(s)?  If this event were covered only by newspapers in New Zealand (an only slightly larger 'region', in the grand (global) scheme of things), then we wouldn't care.  (For instance, nobody is suggesting that the Mitre 10 Cup page be deleted, even though this event is covered only within New Zealand.) Ross Finlayson (talk) 10:25, 1 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Except the Mitre 10 cup is a national and professional competition, so its not really comparing apples with apples. This is a school boy competition, only covered by local papers as part of routine. Yes it maybe on the school pages, but it can be summed up their without needing its own article. NZFC  (talk) (cont)  21:16, 1 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi User:NZFC. You can convince me easily, just point out the rule that says locally significant things that pass general notability should not have pages on Wikipedia. (Dushan Jugum (talk) 21:42, 1 April 2019 (UTC)).
 * Delete To both Dushan Jugum and Ross Finlayson the problem with McEvedy is that the competition is local not National, also it receives only local coverage not National - in these two aspects it fails WP:NSPORTSEVENT. It is questionable if it meets WP:GNG in that one or two articles a year in the local newspaper where the event is held does not to my mind constitute significant coverage. For guidance, I would suggest that WP:YOUNGATH's requirement of substantial and prolonged coverage would be required for GNG anyway. NealeFamily (talk) 03:56, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
 * The definition of significant coverage is it “addresses the topic directly and in detail” WP:GNG not the amount of references. For that see “There is no fixed number of sources required since sources vary in quality and depth of coverage, but multiple sources are generally expected.” WP:GNG. I am asking is there a Wikipedia rule that says that things of only local importance (eg. within one city) should not to be given their own page? (Dushan Jugum (talk) 04:12, 2 April 2019 (UTC)).

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 03:52, 3 April 2019 (UTC)
 * However in terms of events - this does not meet WP:DIVERSE under Notability for events. It is the fact that it is a localised event that is counting against it. NealeFamily (talk) 09:11, 3 April 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete. Removed my Keep "vote" as WP:DIVERSE means too little coverage for general notability. (Dushan Jugum (talk) 09:23, 3 April 2019 (UTC)).


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