Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/McLean Greaves


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. – filelakeshoe (t / c) 🐱 09:54, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

McLean Greaves

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WP:BLP of a writer and entrepreneur, not properly sourced as the subject of enough reliable source coverage to clear our inclusion standards for writers or businesspeople. This was created in draftspace and then moved to mainspace by its own creator without a proper WP:AFC review, but after reviewing the sources I'm not convinced that there's much point in redraftifying it. The notability claim here is that he founded a website in the 1990s, which is not an automatic notability freebie in and of itself in the absence of a properly demonstrated WP:GNG pass -- but the three best sources here all appear to establish the notability of the website much more strongly than they establish the notability of the person who launched the website, while the other five footnotes are not really support for notability at all: content on the self-published websites of his own former employers, a WordPress blog, a very short blurb that just briefly namechecks his existence in the process of also being fundamentally about the website, and a Q&A interview in which he's the person doing the talking rather than the subject being talked about. And even when the creator moved the page, they did so with an "I wish there were more sources about this person" comment in the edit summary -- but if this is the best they could do, then it's not enough, and bypassing AFC isn't appropriate Wikipedia process regardless. So no prejudice against somebody starting an article about Cafe los Negroes if desired, but the sourcing here isn't solid enough to establish that McLean Greaves is independently notable enough for his own biographical article separately from being mentioned in an article about the website. Bearcat (talk) 17:51, 21 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions. Bearcat (talk) 17:51, 21 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Canada-related deletion discussions. Bearcat (talk) 17:51, 21 October 2021 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.