Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mc subzero


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The result was   delete. I have discarded spa votes leaving stong arguments to delete for inadequate sourcing Spartaz Humbug! 04:35, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

Mc subzero

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I fail to find non-trivial coverage. The sources cited in the article only indicate that he got minimal playing time but none are actually in-depth interviews or articles. He has yet to release a full album. (Google search is complicated by the fact that there is a better known artist known as MC subzero permafrost.) Pichpich (talk) 18:54, 1 August 2010 (UTC) Keep - MC SubZero is an original underground MC - His legitimate appearance on B-Real of Cypress Hill's album was indeed global and available in local retail stores and online. MC Peramafrost doesnt have any notable publications. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.15.157.174 (talk • contribs) 16:13, 1 August 2010 — 92.15.157.17 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.

Strong Keep - Duffbeerforme; - MC SubZero does have high search rankings and MORE content then of MC SubZero Permafrost - To be quite frank and factual, the first entry on google search for MC SubZero is his Myspace Profile - which then other searches including youtube video and other relevant web searches for MC SubZero (Look carefully). A total of 8 RELEVANT searches on the first page of google search shows he has more traffic than MC Permafrost. As for notability - Has MC SubZero Peramforst performed exclusively with anybody who has achieved multi platinum records and selling over 18 million records worldwide? Cypress Hill are a world wide pioneers of hiphop music and culture, and for MC SubZero to perform with them and appear on the lead rappers album is a verified notable experience. To question what is notability and not, you have to have a trump card which is 'viable'. Its the only way to show your status and credibility. Permaforst has released NO albums and has NO MUSIC content apart from a few live performances, she only has ONE download available on amazon. Please do not compare artists without finding out TRUE FACTUAL information. — 92.15.195.123 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.  — 92.15.139.145 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:01, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 19:28, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete an unverified (was it this subzero or the other subzero or from discogs Sub Zero (with a space)) appearence on one track on a not notable (from what is shown) mixtape does not make you notable. Search found trivial coverage for permafrost but not for this subzero. duffbeerforme (talk) 12:51, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
 * KEEP* - Substance of musical notability the artist MUST have one of the following - Criteria states artist MUST have been the subject of a half-hour or longer broadcast across a national radio or TV network. - Now MC SubZero has appeared TWICE on the BBC British Asian Network Channel - with sources included in the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.15.139.145 (talk) 12:20, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.


 * Speedy delete under G11 as blatant promotion. Possibly even A7 as well. No evidence of meeting WP:MUSICIAN. Also, he most certainly hasn't been the subject of a broadcast. Not even sure it's the same person, the BBC source only says "Sub Zero". Regardless, simply appearing on a radio show (twice) is not enough. Christopher Connor (talk) 23:36, 14 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Very Strong Keep - Christopher, you said that the article was 'blatant promotion' - Now as it stands the article states credentials of a musician - Their is no 'blatant' promotion conspiracy. MC SubZero appeared on this BBC radio station which the sources verify and also had a half an hour set and interview within that program. Thats notable considering the BBC is the largest broadcasting radio station in the United Kingdom. Wikipedia:Notability (music)

1.Criterion 12 states that an artist is notable if he "Has been the subject of a half-hour or longer broadcast across a national radio or TV network" - MC SubZero has achieved this.

2.Criterion 9 states that the artist/band is notable if artist "Has won or placed in a major music competition" - MC SubZero won a competition in 2005 to appear on Cypress Hill's lead rappers album - the article produces sources of this accomplishment.

From this we see MC SubZero is a notable artist and should remain as one. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Varunanb (talk • contribs) 10:13, 15 August 2010 (UTC) — Varunanb (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
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